@John 313 Are you Sunni or Shia ?

I can't support Iran and say they are muslims anyways

I'm Shi'a, but don't ban. I won't cause troubles

Because they accept transgenders, they have temporary marriage for fornication, and many other weird things wich aren't from Islam

Ok

I can't ban you anyways heh

Khomeini did allow transgenders yeah

Convert to the saved sect bro

But most marjas don't afaik

Seriously why are you Shia

Do you really believe there are 12 occulted Imams who have god-like powers

Also to say that mutah is legalized prostitution is kinda like saying that marriage is legalized fornication, or polygamy is legalized adultery eh

Wdym by occulted Imams?

No it's not the same thing mutah is a temporary marriage only for sex, no ?

It can be for dating too

I don't know it's a thing I saw somewhere occultation or something

The 12th Imam is in occultation yeah

You're a persian right ? Iranian ?

I'm Albanian

Sayyed is Iranian

Ah Shia Albanian weird

True lol

Albanians are usually catholic/muslims and a lot of atheists I'm sure because of past history n communism I think

@Jacob 🕋 Sayyed is asking for unban, is that ok with u?

@carlos Yeah that's right

Communism

But also prior to Communism

As long as he keeps politics out of it

There were Austro Hungarian agents

I see

King Zogu was probably a french agent

He banned shariah

@John 313 Like the French in Algeria, all kufars do that it's normal

Since you're Shia what do you say about this hadith:

It was narrated from Mu’aawiyah ibn Abi Sufyaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stood among us and said: “Those who came before you of the people of the Book split into seventy-two sects, and this ummah will split into seventy-three: seventy-two in Hell and one in Paradise, and that is the jamaa’ah (main body of Muslims).”

90% of muslims are Sunni 10% Shias

@Jacob 🕋 You wanna debate tawassul huh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckes5u3j58w

@carlos firstly it was narrated by Muawiyah who we deem as munafiq

And the Jama'ah is very tangible

Some Akhbaris said that sunnis were kufar

So to them the jama'ah would be shias

But the majority position is that sunnis are Muslim

Ok ok I see

It's grave worship and if you disagree you are wrong
"I asked "The Saudi Ulama say that touching the graves and calling the saints for their blessings is polytheism, so what is your opinion?"
Al-Sayyid al-Sadr replied:
If touching the graves and calling the dead is with the understanding that they could cause harm or render a benefit, then that is polytheism, no doubt about it, the Muslims are monotheists and they know that Allah alone could cause harm or render a benefit, but calling the saints and Imams (may Allah bless them all) with the understanding that they could be an intermediary to Allah, that is not polytheism."
https://www.al-islam.org/sw/node/12750

Yes it is polytheism and this is IJMA as narrated by ibn Hajar that whoever takes an intermediary to Allah is an apostate.
Also I would like to point out the first part of his answer 'it's not polytheism as long as you believe allah is the one behind it', this is always the excuse for every saint worshipping religion. Mary's not all hearing, God just allows her to hear you. However many Shia believe that God already gave power over the entire universe to the Imams, so I mean their argument is literally 'it's not shirk unless you believe they got God's power themselves', and that's just stupid.

Were you born Sunni or Shia ?

Sunni

Hanafi Athari

Can't believe a Sunni can become Shia what went trough your head, what made you think Shiism is truth ?

Yeah. Mostly Shiites who become Sunnis not the other way around.

Basically the fact that Imamate is correct, but I'm to exhausted to debate here now. @Deleted User is debating a Christian so I'm helping him in dms.

@Caliphization Really? We got 3 people who went from sunni to shia in Rafed server.

Like, said the shahada in vc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GP2BHBkjDM

That’s sad. Most people convert from Shiism to Sunnism

>sending videos to prove a point

Smh

And what do you think about the Shiite fatimid Caliphate who tyrannized the Ummah and cut people in half because they refused to worshop Ali

worship*

Fatimids were Ismaili

Ismailis are kufar

And backstabbed Saladin in the crusades war.

Because they reject shariah

But Ismailism is Shiism

And are panentheistic

Doesn't matter. According to the 12er Shias, anyone who rejects shariah is a kafir

Okok

Well I pray that Allah SWT will get you and all Shias back to the straight path as Iran used to be Sunni(Muslim) before

Ameen

>ijma
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not all sunni scholars agree on this mate, al tabarani narrated an interesting hadith on istighatha which i might loom for later

idk why you'd respect isis the group who apologizes to israel after attacking them and the group who's objectives align with america's perfectly (assad is a nuisance for israel as he allows hezbollah and iran to have a land link)

oh you wanted me to keep politics out, wont discuss it from here on then

I don't respect Daesh m8, they are Khawarij, but they are better than Assad or any Rafidi group. They never apologized to Israel either, they have an active branch fighting Israel in Palestine. The Sheikh Omar Hadid Brigade.
>Objectives align with America
Hmm didn't know America wanted to establish a Caliphate good to know.
Israel, Assad, Iran, and Hezbollshaytan all need to be destroyed. No need to pick lesser of evils (even tho the Shia are worse than kuffar).

daesh isnt better than iran or assad

and they did apologize to israel lol i'll find it

and america wants an anti iran state to block arms from iran into lebanon and palestine

If Iran was Sunni id support it

But unfortunately it ain't, and now thats way you have in iran, trannies

Daesh is way better than them as they are Kuffar. Daesh are Khawarij but not kuffar. Well considering I don't want Iran to exist idc if America wants an anti Iran state. I don't think Shia should be armed in Lebanon or Palestine either. As long as Sunni groups are armed idc and HAMAS should get their weapons from Sunnis not Iran. HAMAS isn't that great tho but that's a different issue. I'd rather have Israel then a Shia ruled Palestine.

Yes, Make Persia Sunni Again. A Persian Islamic State would be amazing.

yes persians contributed a lot to Islam when they were Sunnis

if shia werent armed in lebanon then lebanon would be still occupied lmao

but have it your way, muslims with some logic will get off the computer, unite and free palestine without you <:GWcmeisterPeepoShrug:403295315685539852>

Again, Shia are worse than kuffar. Dosent mean I support Lebanon being occupied by Kuffar but it is better than being occupied by Rafidi dogs. I only support Sunni groups, no matter what.

@ɪʀᴀɴɪᴀɴ ʀᴇᴠᴏʟᴜᴛɪᴏɴᴀʀʏ ɢᴜᴀʀᴅ I didn't know the path to al Quds went through Idlib

you would get lost in your house with that gps

this is still my favorite tweet:
https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/755363807489363968

🤔

it cracks me up everytime I think about it

like that one pic of the two cosplaying shias

Smt

for the uninitiated

@Jacob 🕋 better start learning hebrew goy

😉

@...new syria is a middle point between iran and lebanon hence syria being secure and stable is necessary to free al quds

and based khamenei, you have to k ow your enemy to defeat him

khamenei and the iri are on a mission to end thottery and degeneracy