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2020-12-09 18:39:52 UTC

Which means they're not fact

2020-12-09 18:39:59 UTC

You mean you would think we know

2020-12-09 18:39:59 UTC

We still don't fully know how gravity works

2020-12-09 18:40:01 UTC

This is awesome @DariusGalaxyz! Love it!

2020-12-09 18:40:04 UTC

The speed of light is not likely to change... LOL

2020-12-09 18:40:15 UTC

Not likely is the key word there

2020-12-09 18:40:21 UTC

Which means it can

2020-12-09 18:40:22 UTC

No... it's not.

2020-12-09 18:40:31 UTC

People didn't think it was likely that the theory of relativity would ever change

2020-12-09 18:40:38 UTC

Light travels as fast as light travels... it's not changable

2020-12-09 18:40:40 UTC

There's a reason it's still known as a theory

2020-12-09 18:40:55 UTC

The speed of it doesn't change but the MEASUREMENT of it can

2020-12-09 18:41:05 UTC

relativity is still the prevailing rule however... we have found nothing that can break it.

2020-12-09 18:41:16 UTC

I really need to proofread before sending these things 😅

2020-12-09 18:41:17 UTC

Do you even know what the theory of relativity is???

2020-12-09 18:41:42 UTC

No... the measurement of the speed of light is not changable either

2020-12-09 18:41:45 UTC

2020-12-09 18:41:55 UTC

the speed of light travels as fast as it travels. end of story

2020-12-09 18:42:00 UTC

So you don't think it'll be different from metric to standard?

2020-12-09 18:42:21 UTC

we could change our method of measurement, say switch to a different system. That would NOT change how fast it tarvels

2020-12-09 18:42:30 UTC

No...

2020-12-09 18:42:33 UTC

Science, religion and other institutions in our society are sometimes used by beings with malicious intent to control the masses. It's predatory. Case in point, the "science" of COVID.

2020-12-09 18:42:34 UTC

So what happened when they thought they knew the exact speed of the speed of sound. At some point that was updated to the current number

2020-12-09 18:43:05 UTC

LOL... there has never been a change in the speed of sound

2020-12-09 18:43:19 UTC

assigning a different mesurement does not change its speed

2020-12-09 18:43:27 UTC

So you're saying the scientists ALWAYS thought it was the exact actual speed ?

2020-12-09 18:43:32 UTC

I doubt that

2020-12-09 18:43:39 UTC

Sure about that?

2020-12-09 18:43:41 UTC

because there is ALWAYS a correlation between these measurment syetems...

2020-12-09 18:43:58 UTC

3 feet is always 1 meter

2020-12-09 18:44:05 UTC

Some of those measurement systems weren't that good when the first reading came along

2020-12-09 18:44:28 UTC

I'm not talking about UNITS of measure, I'm talking about devices thatmeasure, lol

2020-12-09 18:44:44 UTC

the fact that the speed of sound changes within mediums is not relavant... since we know what its' speed is IN those mediums...

2020-12-09 18:44:48 UTC

I think I split that hair to be honest

2020-12-09 18:44:52 UTC

again... the speed of sound is KNOWN

2020-12-09 18:45:03 UTC

And you're not talking about distance, you're talking about measuring something that can only be measured by devices because humans can't SEE sound

2020-12-09 18:45:05 UTC

But it's more information that we learned later on, which made the earlier statement unfactual

2020-12-09 18:45:24 UTC

OK... then we can talk about light

2020-12-09 18:45:27 UTC

we CAN see that

2020-12-09 18:45:35 UTC

So why can't we further learn more information that would change the result again?

2020-12-09 18:45:35 UTC

and again, we KNOW how fast it travels

2020-12-09 18:45:51 UTC

For now until they discover something new which will change the information that we used to know

2020-12-09 18:45:56 UTC

Like even if it's by 1, 2, 3 mph change, that would show the previous number wasn't factual

2020-12-09 18:46:15 UTC

LOL... there is NO WAY to change the speed of light... or sound

2020-12-09 18:46:24 UTC

This is why nothing can relly be factual cuz something can come along to disprove it later, even if it's 500 years later

2020-12-09 18:46:34 UTC

That article above literally talks about how the speed of sound changes

2020-12-09 18:46:34 UTC

I didn't say there was a way to change the actual speed

2020-12-09 18:46:36 UTC

You COULD change ONLY the mesurement... that would NOT change the ACTUAL speed

2020-12-09 18:46:41 UTC

But we have to MEASURE what that constant speed is

2020-12-09 18:46:42 UTC

2020-12-09 18:46:53 UTC

and since we KNOW the actual speed, we can use it to figure things out

2020-12-09 18:46:57 UTC

I'll repeat what I said before...
Science, religion and other institutions in our society are sometimes used by beings with malicious intent to control the masses. It's predatory. Case in point, the "science" of COVID.

2020-12-09 18:46:59 UTC

2020-12-09 18:46:59 UTC

like how far away stars are

2020-12-09 18:47:15 UTC

We KNOW the speed until it's modified in the future by future more-accurate measuring

2020-12-09 18:47:44 UTC

As we advance as human beings, our understanding advances of the things around us

2020-12-09 18:47:59 UTC

Yes... I think this whole conversation started because there was someconfusion about coronaviruses and some here did not know that there are 4 types of CV that cause the symptoms of a common cold @GamersForTrump

2020-12-09 18:48:18 UTC

Our understanding advances... but the things we USE to understand do not

2020-12-09 18:48:23 UTC

I never claimed any of my things to be factual, so I'm in the clear, lol.

2020-12-09 18:48:38 UTC

That's not true, there's new technology all the time

2020-12-09 18:48:42 UTC

Those would be new things to use

2020-12-09 18:48:43 UTC

again... light moves at specific speeds. Those speeds do not change

2020-12-09 18:48:52 UTC

I never disputed that Juno

2020-12-09 18:49:01 UTC

I'm just proud of y'all for swimming in the deep end for a bit!!

2020-12-09 18:49:03 UTC

I'm saying the measuring can change because technology changes.

2020-12-09 18:49:28 UTC

But measuring can only change in the TYPE of mesurement. It does not change the basic physics...

2020-12-09 18:49:29 UTC

Again the speed of light is not consistent just like the speed of sound

2020-12-09 18:49:30 UTC

2020-12-09 18:49:44 UTC

@GamersForTrump I've got another movie clip that will blow your mind, kinda gives you chills, especially if you relate it to the spirit world, and even the conspiratorial world.

2020-12-09 18:49:56 UTC

Giddyup!

2020-12-09 18:50:05 UTC

Yes, it chages with medium, as does sound toony.

2020-12-09 18:50:11 UTC

but we know what those speeds are

2020-12-09 18:50:17 UTC

More information we didn't know before,

2020-12-09 18:50:32 UTC

And the information we learn is through science...

2020-12-09 18:50:43 UTC

And science always proves that nothing is factual

2020-12-09 18:50:46 UTC

It's all just theory

2020-12-09 18:50:56 UTC

Until we find out more

2020-12-09 18:50:57 UTC

Doesn't change the physics, but even basic physichs can be changed in how they are measured. What if the technology needed to show a different fact is decades or longer away? Those even simple facts could come into question if we have much better technology 50 years from now

2020-12-09 18:50:58 UTC

bet none of you have ever even heard of planck time

2020-12-09 18:51:45 UTC

Where's the movie clip?

2020-12-09 18:51:47 UTC

You can not PROVE any of the things in the bible are accurate or factual toony

2020-12-09 18:51:58 UTC

Don't bet that we haven't heard of something, that kind of makes us feel lesser to say that lol

2020-12-09 18:52:07 UTC

yet you are willing to sink your entire belief into them just because it's what you read in a book

2020-12-09 18:52:17 UTC

how is that any different from faith in science??

2020-12-09 18:52:23 UTC

Sure it can, science is proving the Bible before

2020-12-09 18:52:38 UTC

Well, for me it's not just cuz I read it in a book. It's not like it's on the Internet so it must be true

2020-12-09 18:52:47 UTC

My faith and God doesn't come from a book

2020-12-09 18:52:51 UTC

@DariusGalaxyz no one ever answered my question on relativity... I apologize for assuming

2020-12-09 18:52:58 UTC

you know what it is then??

2020-12-09 18:53:07 UTC

My relationship with the almighty God and his son Jesus Christ

2020-12-09 18:53:08 UTC

2020-12-09 18:53:15 UTC

But toony, it does not come from PROOF... hard and fast PROOF

2020-12-09 18:53:15 UTC

All-time favorite haiku right there

2020-12-09 18:53:40 UTC

my point is that faith and science are NOT mutually exclusive

2020-12-09 18:53:43 UTC

It's always about hard and fast with you, how about a long lasting relationship that proves to me that he's real

2020-12-09 18:53:52 UTC

@JunoBlade There's obviously a TON of messages being sent by everybody, we can't respond to everything

2020-12-09 18:53:54 UTC

and you CAN believe that the bible is a moral allegory, and still have faith

2020-12-09 18:53:58 UTC

The fact that I have answered prayers,

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