Isnt free healthcare just very expensive

The government should just stop sticking their nose into the healthcare industry and let the free market just work

My mom got breast cancer just after obama care, her insurance was cancelled, no one would insure her we paid out of pocket for 7 years till she was cured. I spent at least $400,000 out of pocket

There was also a violation of our first amendment, making religious groups pay for abortions and contraceptive (plan b) that they don't approve of

she still can not get insurance not even obama care

I found dr that will work for cash.

How's your mom now?

she is great

Ah nice

Honesty if you apply libertarian thinking to the pro-life argument you can argue that murdering an unborn child is a violation of the NAP, and is therefore immoral. So yeah, pro-life libertarianism can be argued for.

but me and my brothers sold our homes, cars every thing.

building a new home now, but it was hard AF

Kind of sad that a lot of libertarians ignore this argument tho and some even support abortions

the only time I agree with abortion is when the girl is raped and if she's underage

^^ generally agree

@JJ04 that represents <1% of abietions

Hm

I was Dem before obama care

Yeah that is very rare to even happen

Well sure, but that's still the only time I think it's fine

Even if it's below 1%

Abortions* <---------can't type

Most abortions are performed when the mother knows damn well she's killing an unborn child that she voluntarily allowed to form

so yeah Obama did give me change

@JJ04 I agree

But there are very very rare cases where it could be justified

Agree with jim

But the pro-choice ppl love to harp on about these cases that are less than 1% of abortions

Most people will agree, health of mother, incest, and rape. But we have very lax abortion laws here already. Comparable to third world countries and less strict than Europe

i can be for abortions... if you want to pay for them. not for free from the gov.

What is planned parenthood?

government funded abortion organization

They get our tax money the sick bastards

Ok then I understand why it's not good

Abortion clinic, proprietors of baby parts

They tax you and they kill unborn babies with it

Yep ^^

Exactly

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-what-kinda-shit-is-that-chris-tucker-friday-gif-4571284

Planned parenthood is the front for the ambrosia clinics the elite use to stay healthy/young . they need abortions for the stem cells

and young blood

I think even pro choice libertarians would agree that state-funded abortion clinics are not good at all

http://americanpregnancy.org/week-by-week/5-weeks-pregnant/
Discovery in weeks

However late abortions and methods

https://www.shape.com/lifestyle/mind-and-body/how-late-pregnancy-can-you-actually-have-abortion

http://americanpregnancy.org/unplanned-pregnancy/abortion-procedures/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.womenshealthmag.com/health/amp19910816/how-late-can-you-get-an-abortion/
91%
Less than 13 weeks
https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/data_stats/abortion.htm

Reasons give. For abortions

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiPn6-R0tndAhWHyoMKHQIQAlgQFjAAegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw0xrWI1vHvujmmPCglZabhN&cshid=1537998372962

https://www.contraceptionjournal.org/article/S0010-7824(17)30188-9/fulltext

How the US compares to the world.
https://lozierinstitute.org/internationalabortionnorms/

Some of my raw research if you want to learn more

Is anyone else here a pro-life libertarian? Because that seems to be kind of rare for some reason

https://verilymag.com/2016/10/benefits-of-pregnancy-motherhood-womens-health

https://www.whattoexpect.com/first-year/photo-gallery/health-benefits-of-pregnancy-and-motherhood.aspx


https://youtu.be/4BSb92OYA0g


https://youtu.be/l51ozMOxEYc

If only you could save discord messages

Oops sorry

Mixed in a couple other links 😂

Want me to dm you?

"I identify as a genderfluid, non-binary, demi-boy." - A college student somewhere

Or private message you or whatever ha ha

I identify as an attack helicopter

if you disagree with me you are heliphobic

I identify as a C8NLD

Libertarians seem to be hands off the body and what you with it is your choice @AWOIII

Yeah, but I like to argue that abortion is indeed murder and it is impacting another person in a major way because it is the literal murder of another human being. Very sad that other libertarians either ignore this or even fully support abortions.

The libertarian idea is that you can do what you like as long as it doesn't affect anyone else. I agree with this, and you can point out that murder *is* affecting someone else because it is literal murder.

I agree, I just think that's how libertarians might view it

Yeah, I just don't know why they are not seeing that abortion is murder. And it is not a violation of the NAP towards the *mother*, because she (except in rare cases) had *voluntarily* contracepted a baby. I hope that clears up pro-life libertarianism for you 🖤💛.

Anyone want a DM of my abortion links? They are far from perfect

And with other things that are harmless such as gay marriage and weed legalization I support because ppl taking part in those activities do not affect my life personally, therefore I think that they are ok. But abortion is something else entirely and I hate it when other libertarians try to lump it in with harmless stuff like that when it is indeed murder.

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True story: I've never smoked pot, but I know I'm allergic from other people smoking it

damn I never have and don't ever plan on it but if other people want to I support their decision

This discord is the best. Just saying. It's so nice to talk with other people, and have it be civil. Better than YouTube. BoooTube

Boobtube is pretty good

I really like this discord man, everyone on here seems so nice. But according to Reddit we are "spreading hate" lol

All the hate we're spreading! Did you know if you transpose the letters in the word "facts" they make the words "i hate all the non white people"

REDDIT sux. Only downloaded it for Zed.

Same now I have discord

@AWOIII I'm a pro life paleolib

you beleive in liberal paleontology?

No

Paleolibertarian smh

You're a libertaurian dinosaur?

lmfao no

its basically a libertarian with social views closer to a conservative

Cuomo is such a dingus.

@Marco Antonio how does that work

@Deleted User traditional conservative cultural values and social philosophy with a libertarian opposition to government intervention.

That sounds like conservatism with extra steps

Nah we need a constitutional party in charge.

Take care of the nimrods.

> That sounds like conservatism with extra steps
@Deleted User kind of?

its a conservative

opposed to government intervention

thats about it

But how would that work?

I'm all good for people picking their beliefs in specificity

I just dont understand rebranding to "be an individual like all the other individuals"

I mean, it just kind of specifies the type of conservative

some conservatives may be more okay with government intervention where it benefits them, where a paleo libertarian might not

OK that makes sense I didnt think about it that way

I made a quote

“Die trying or try dying” and “I’d party harder in the rain”

A couple quotes I guess

4 the bot?