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John Mosby 2018-01-31 21:44:45

MANUAL FOR CREATING A COMMUNITY FOOD FOREST ON PUBLIC LAND

https://permaculturenews.org/2013/01/23/manual-for-creating-a-community-food-forest-on-public-land/

https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0B7DO4X94zZqGZ3ZyT05TUjh6UWM

John Mosby 2018-01-31 21:45:46

https://www.motherearthnews.com/homesteading-and-livestock

John Mosby 2018-01-31 21:45:58

http://www.permacultureactivist.net/articles/articles.htm

John Mosby 2018-01-31 21:46:16

Permaculture Activist

http://www.food-skills-for-self-sufficiency.com/

John Mosby 2018-01-31 21:46:56

Raising chickens

https://www.backyardchickens.com/

Commander Davis (TWP) 2018-01-31 21:47:44

I think I'll just use my private property I don't need no commies or blacks stealin my foood

Hadrian 2018-01-31 21:48:48

so many rooms now and still no #tradworer for shitposting

John Mosby 2018-01-31 21:59:11

@Commander Davis (TWP)

Ya, I would stick to my own land, but the notion is still intriguing.

Fash Dragon 2018-01-31 22:01:43

HOLY SHIT

Fash Dragon 2018-01-31 22:01:50

A channel I can get behind

Fash Dragon 2018-01-31 22:02:06

Fash Dragon 2018-01-31 22:02:28

Fash Dragon 2018-01-31 22:02:40

All berffed frum da erff

Fash Dragon 2018-01-31 22:03:23

Fash Dragon 2018-01-31 22:03:34

This is the best book I have on the topic

Fash Dragon 2018-01-31 22:03:38

Highly recommended

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:03:43

Noice!

I was raising a bunch of animals the past few year, but kept having issues with dogs.

Im just gonna do a massive garden this year, and maybe do a couple pigs again.

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:04:03

@Fash Dragon

Can u get that book on pdf?

Fash Dragon 2018-01-31 22:04:30

I could try to find it. It's more of an encyclopedia than anything

Fash Dragon 2018-01-31 22:05:10

See I'm a forester and homesteading is a major hobby of mine

Fash Dragon 2018-01-31 22:05:36

I would be happy to share my different recipes if there's a way to do so in an organized fashion

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:05:44

Nice!

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:06:48

http://www.instructables.com/id/Power-in-the-Apocalypse-How-to-Build-a-Wood-Gasifi/

Fash Dragon 2018-01-31 22:06:51

As well as some general redneck engineering

Fash Dragon 2018-01-31 22:07:15

Fash Dragon 2018-01-31 22:07:25

This is literally my bathroom sink

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:07:44

Ha!

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:07:47

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/31947478589550363/?lp=true

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:08:40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3VMhfIsfm0

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:10:20

https://www.motherearthnews.com/homesteading-and-livestock/breeding-rabbits-zmaz70mazglo

Fash Dragon 2018-01-31 22:10:49

Meat is murder

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:11:43

I raised meat rabbits for a couple years...I will say it made me sad when I had to kill em...felt better once they were in muh belly

Fash Dragon 2018-01-31 22:12:43

How much land you on?

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:13:08

A bit over a acre (cleared), but I have a few more acres of woods that are at my disposal

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:13:49

https://www.primalsurvivor.net/1-acre-tiny-homestead-layouts/

https://www.motherearthnews.com/homesteading-and-livestock/self-reliance/self-sufficient-homestead-zm0z11zkon

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:13:50

@John Mosby Rabbit meat?

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:14:07

I don't know if that will give you a lot of meat.....

Fash Dragon 2018-01-31 22:14:33

I'm coming down on the 17th. Would you permit me to take a tour of the property? I could show you a couple wild food sources if you like

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:14:37

Unless you've got one of the giant ones the size of a dog.

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:14:41

@Dangerlurking

Ya, Rabbit meat is one of the best meats there is...super high in protein, and their poop is the BEST for composting (u technically dont even have to compost it, as it is so clean).

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:15:11

@Fash Dragon

Most definitely

U can crash at my place, too, if u want

Hadrian 2018-01-31 22:15:23

wish I could come down

Fash Dragon 2018-01-31 22:16:01

@John Mosby I was hoping so!

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:16:42

@Dangerlurking

I was raising Californian Rabbits, and u actually get a decent amount of meat off of them.

You pretty much kill the kits, as soon as they ween, which will net u a bit of meat, but if u kill a few, then that is plenty for a stew that will last a few days...cleaning rabbits takes only a few minutes, too

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:17:27

Yhea, I doubt you can feed a whole group with just rabbit meat.

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:17:50

https://www.artofmanliness.com/2014/04/16/how-to-field-dress-and-butcher-a-rabbit/

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:18:31

That's the first time I have seen discord censor an image.

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:18:46

It just depends how many u raise...the term "fucking like rabbits" doesn't just come outa nowhere.

I started with 3 breeding pairs, and could hardly keep up with all the babies they produced, and keep producing at a constant rate.

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:19:12

Which brings into issue the food supply for them.

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:19:34

I put them in a rabbit tractor, and they just ate my grass...no money required to feed em.

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:19:47

In a what?

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:20:18

https://thefrugalchicken.com/diy-rabbit-tractor/

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:20:31

Really? I thought you would have had to gotten something like hay.

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:21:19

A bit in the winter, cuz the grass grows slowly, but I let my grass grow super long, before winter hits, so I have an abundant supply during the slowest growing months.

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:21:52

I would be concerned about them getting drenched in freezing cold water if you let them out during the winter.

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:22:11

I say to feed all the rabbits, I probably spent less than $100 a year (I supplemented them with some hay and pellets during the winter).

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:22:40

I covered the top with a tarp.

Winter is no problem for them...the summer can be a bitch...I lost a few to flies one year

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:23:08

Yhea, flies are naturally attracted to shit, and they shit like nothing on earth.

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:24:02

Ya, I would move the cage a couple times a day, and collect the shit for the garden, after I moved it.

What got my rabbits is when they had babies one time, the flies got to em before I knew they were getting attacked.

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:24:33

https://www.motherearthnews.com/homesteading-and-livestock/livestock/homestead-hacks-diy-rabbit-tractor-zm0z16djzmar

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:24:36

Wait, have you tried setting up fly net's around the cages so they can't get to them?

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:24:46

I never did...

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:24:57

Mate what the fuck.

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:25:01

I only had a problem one time, out of over 2 years.

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:25:16

That's like being asked to be eaten alive by flies and mosquito's.

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:25:59

Nah, they generally did fine.

We dont have many mosquitoes here...if u live somewhere with a bunch of em, then u probably would need to put up a net.

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:26:11

Yhea, I do.

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:26:29

We also get tons of ticks that have a fairly good chance of having lyme disease as well.

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:27:14

We get ticks sometimes, but the rabbits seemed to be pretty resistant to them...I rarely found ticks on them, and I would handle them all the time, to keep em docile.

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:27:52

During the late summer, and all of fall, the ticks are EVERYWHERE in west NYS.

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:28:20

That sucks...I freaking HATE ticks...the worst are chiggers, though

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:28:33

Chiggers?

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:28:58

Little bugs that get under your skin...they are the WORST

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:29:08

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trombiculidae

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:29:27

I don't think we get them here.

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:29:56

Thank God we dont get em here, either.

I got em BAD in Missouri before, though

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:30:35

"They are not present, or barely found, in far northern areas" HAH.

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:31:53

I'd never live anywhere those things are prolific...they definitely came from to bowels of Hell.

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:32:46

I woulden't doubt that if you purposefully went out into the swamp and dug through all of the mush and dirt in there you could find a few, but they are only prevalent in tropical and very moist area's, which we don't get in NYS.

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:33:34

The only time it get's extremely moist around here is during the summer before a big thunderstorm strikes.

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:34:27

It gets pretty wet here, but we are lucky to not really have em.

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:34:37

Even when I lived in Houston we didn't have them

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:34:46

Who know's, they might become more prevalent as time goes on.

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:34:53

DONT SAY THAT

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:35:12

They will hear u

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:35:12

Ticks were fairly uncommon here, but soon the population exploded and they became very prevalent.

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:35:31

We had a BAD tick problem last year, but we generally dont get them much

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:36:19

I remember I had maps from the CDC that showed the tick population from like 2012 to now, and it shows how much the tick population has grown.

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:36:52

Ill tell u what are spreading across the States, bad, are freaking fire ants.

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:37:10

Fire ants?

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 22:38:06

Sounds like an arizona, california, and texas thing.

John Mosby 2018-01-31 22:51:44

They are making their way across the states...they are now popping up in TN.

Fash Dragon 2018-01-31 23:04:29

@John Mosby you got armadillos there yet?

Fash Dragon 2018-01-31 23:04:43

We got them down in SoIL

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 23:05:08

@John Mosby I doubt they will make up to NYS though, the climate is too hostile for them.

Fash Dragon 2018-01-31 23:07:58

The species migration is the only thing that really makes me wonder about global warming

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 23:09:06

It has happened all the time and will continue to do so.

John Mosby 2018-01-31 23:11:46

@Fash Dragon

We had a TON in TX, but haven't seen any in East TN.

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 23:12:05

@John Mosby Tell me about the fire ants.

John Mosby 2018-01-31 23:12:15

@Dangerlurking

Scientists have said that fire ants will make it all the way up to Alaska, as they are so resistance to the elements.

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 23:12:34

SHIT.

Fash Dragon 2018-01-31 23:12:44

I knew this hippie that had a theory that the dillas weren't actually moving north and that it was just a conspiracy by the truckers to trick people

John Mosby 2018-01-31 23:13:05

https://io9.gizmodo.com/5769731/how-fire-ants-invaded-north-america-then-the-world-in-just-a-few-decades

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 23:13:13

@Fash Dragon Did you tell him to shove a boot up his ass?

MACrusader 2018-01-31 23:27:25

Shiiiieet

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 23:28:26

SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIT

John Mosby 2018-01-31 23:32:29

My good friend's neighbor was riding his tractor through his field and flipped it onto a fire ant hill, and got pinned...they ate him alive.

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 23:33:35

Literally?

John Mosby 2018-01-31 23:34:17

Yerp...they actually kill more people than u'd think...mostly kids and people who are allergic, but that was a crazy case.

They were everywhere in Houston...got bit on almost a daily basis.

Dangerlurking 2018-01-31 23:34:40

Holy shit.

Flaxxer 2018-02-01 00:04:38

TWP we homesteadin' again?

Fash Dragon 2018-02-01 00:07:44

Permaculture is the best culture

Fash Dragon 2018-02-01 01:01:06

Would anyone here be interested in me posting some of my herbal tea and tincture recipes in here in a PDF?

Flaxxer 2018-02-01 02:10:56

Drop that shit nibba

Flaxxer 2018-02-01 02:13:18

Granted I live in an area with absolutely no real vegetation that isn't SUCCulent or shrub

Flaxxer 2018-02-01 02:13:22

Cactus tea fam

Fash Dragon 2018-02-01 02:15:32

Aloe

Fash Dragon 2018-02-01 02:15:35

Mesquite

Fash Dragon 2018-02-01 02:15:39

Prickly pear

Flaxxer 2018-02-01 02:18:06

Aloe isn't native here. It's Junipers, Pancake Cactus, Jumping Cactus, and Oak brush.

Flaxxer 2018-02-01 02:18:19

Oh and Spanish Bayonets/Yucca

Fash Dragon 2018-02-01 02:19:50

You guys have cedars there?

Fash Dragon 2018-02-01 02:19:56

Do you know the species?

Flaxxer 2018-02-01 02:21:36

Utah Junipers make up the majority of trees out here. There's a mountain range with a ton of Pinyon Pines near me. Flagstaff has cedars and aspens and such.

Flaxxer 2018-02-01 02:21:54

We also have Joshua's and Ocotillo

Fash Dragon 2018-02-01 02:22:12

Gay desert shit

Flaxxer 2018-02-01 02:22:30

The Virgin woodlands VS The Chad Desert

Flaxxer 2018-02-01 02:23:03

It's actually a high semi-arid region on the Koppen Climate index

Flaxxer 2018-02-01 02:23:42

Flaxxer 2018-02-01 02:27:09

We even have Tundra in Arizona πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€”

Flaxxer 2018-02-01 02:27:21

And the snowiest city in America outside of Alaska

Fash Dragon 2018-02-01 02:36:28

I can't hear you over my HIGH CARRYING CAPACITY

Flaxxer 2018-02-01 02:36:57

>Not weeding out the weak trough dehydration and sunstroke

Flaxxer 2018-02-01 02:37:05

>imagine being that cucked

K Martin 2018-02-01 02:40:41

> that feel when probably moving to Hot Desert soon

feels bad man

K Martin 2018-02-01 02:41:26

Fucking havasu \

Flaxxer 2018-02-01 02:41:42

Don't worry fam. We're gonna take Arizona for the TWP and make it into rich farm land so we can E A T

K Martin 2018-02-01 02:42:11

A G A I N

K Martin 2018-02-01 02:42:40

<:tradworkersymbol:374584413561946114> 🍴 πŸ”ƒ

FashyGoy1488 2018-02-01 02:43:07

We eatin ass again?

Fash Dragon 2018-02-01 02:43:47

Should I go at eat again

Fash Dragon 2018-02-01 02:43:55

I think it's chicken nuggets night

K Martin 2018-02-01 02:44:31

Y E S

K Martin 2018-02-01 02:44:43

Just do it. Nike style.

FashyGoy1488 2018-02-01 02:48:08

https://youtu.be/zr9y-yh8Xt8

Flaxxer 2018-02-01 02:53:47

Also I can't tag him because he's got non standard characters in his name, but we've got a leaf in here that's moving down to Arizona soon and he's interested in getting a chapter rolling

FashyGoy1488 2018-02-01 04:11:15

What would you do if a Jew entered your homestead?

Flaxxer 2018-02-01 04:33:44

H I P P I T Y H O P P I T Y

Flaxxer 2018-02-01 04:33:56

N O J E W S O N M Y P R O P E R T Y

FashyGoy1488 2018-02-01 04:34:46

Hahahahaha is that from something?

Flaxxer 2018-02-01 05:27:00

Ancap frog fam

Flaxxer 2018-02-01 05:27:15

Hippity Hoppity get off my property

FashyGoy1488 2018-02-01 05:31:20

Love it haha

Hand Banana 2018-02-01 07:16:33

Pretty sure we've had fire ants in MI since I was a kid

Hand Banana 2018-02-01 07:17:00

I'm going to try growing hops this summer with my comrade and roommate

Hand Banana 2018-02-01 07:17:07

Will keep a journal and keep y'all updated

Hand Banana 2018-02-01 07:17:10

Real cashcrop hours

Hadrian 2018-02-01 13:13:58

Flaxxer 2018-02-01 16:24:48

H i p p i t y h o p p i t y n o j e w s o n m y p r o p e r t y

Fevs 2018-02-01 16:25:20

Hippity Hoppity women are property

MACrusader 2018-02-01 16:29:35

FashyGoy1488 2018-02-01 16:39:59

I’m in my homestead right now

John Mosby 2018-02-02 03:29:17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6_MkECiBsQ&t=5s

John Mosby 2018-02-02 03:29:38

You can get truckloads of wood chips for free

John Mosby 2018-02-02 03:30:21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7JbJoRiU8E

John Mosby 2018-02-02 03:31:26

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Xk7LWGDDOw

Dangerlurking 2018-02-02 03:34:03

@John Mosby Mushrooms are not really my thing, but if I am in a survival situation, I would not turn them down unless they made me sick from eating them.

John Mosby 2018-02-02 03:35:04

Even if u don't like to eat them (I personally love em), they are very profitable to sell, and they are great for composting.

John Mosby 2018-02-02 03:35:06

https://www.profitableplantsdigest.com/growing-japanese-maples-for-profit/

John Mosby 2018-02-02 03:36:32

http://www.hobbyfarms.com/9-great-mushrooms-to-grow-for-market-3/

Vice Commander Hunt 2018-02-02 03:36:42

@Dangerlurking you probably should turn them down, especially in a survival situation. Mushrooms are harder than other plants to correctly identify, so they're dangerous unless you study them/grow them yourself

Fevs 2018-02-02 03:39:38

I almost tried growing P. Cubensis in my closet to make some extra cash

Fevs 2018-02-02 03:39:54

I know the profit margins on THOSE were a bit extreme πŸ˜‰ i dunno how it is with legal mushrooms

Dangerlurking 2018-02-02 03:41:15

@Vice Commander Hunt I meant if I KNOW if they are safe.

Vice Commander Hunt 2018-02-02 03:56:40

Dangerlurking 2018-02-02 03:59:06

Growing some stuff there?

Vice Commander Hunt 2018-02-02 03:59:45

not yet, still too snowy

Vice Commander Hunt 2018-02-02 04:00:14

eventually though. They have a 5+ year shelf life

Dangerlurking 2018-02-02 04:17:26

Nice.

Dangerlurking 2018-02-03 04:32:36

Hmm, this makes me wonder, why not construct a greenhouse?

Fash Dragon 2018-02-03 04:35:01

I would be interested looking to it

Dangerlurking 2018-02-03 04:38:15

I mean, it could make farming easier, and you could do it year round, rather than in the warmer half of the year.

Vice Commander Hunt 2018-02-03 12:56:59

Aquaponics greenhouses my dude, most efficient way to do it

Vice Commander Hunt 2018-02-03 13:02:49

Tl;dr on aquaponics, it's combining hydroponics with fish farming. The fish add nitrogen to the water, gets cycled back through the plants. Almost entirely self-sufficient. You can grow duckweed to feed the fish too. Boom, high efficiency gardening using raised beds to maximize sq footage

John Mosby 2018-02-03 14:25:40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETE3muY6mYo

Mike_The_Monsta 2018-02-03 20:53:45

Can you really use that for 3 square meals a day?

FashyGoy1488 2018-02-03 22:37:06

Yeah they’re good for a lot actually

FashyGoy1488 2018-02-03 22:37:16

I almost started one with my ex

FashyGoy1488 2018-02-03 22:37:36

Aquaponics OP

Fash Dragon 2018-02-03 22:37:55

Just looked into buying a home

FashyGoy1488 2018-02-03 22:38:42

Dude nice

FashyGoy1488 2018-02-03 22:38:51

Good luck

Fash Dragon 2018-02-03 22:38:51

It'll be a while

FashyGoy1488 2018-02-03 22:38:57

Yeah same

Fash Dragon 2018-02-03 22:40:46

Its got a fence

Fash Dragon 2018-02-03 22:40:57

So I can garden

Fash Dragon 2018-02-03 22:41:03

Despite it being in town

FashyGoy1488 2018-02-03 22:42:00

Nice!

FashyGoy1488 2018-02-03 22:42:04

Garden is a must

Odalman 2018-02-04 04:37:04

https://youtu.be/bTlcCvvUjl0

Odalman 2018-02-04 04:37:42

Keep farm fresh eggs for a whole year with this method.

Fash Dragon 2018-02-04 07:23:34

chickens HATE this guy

Fash Dragon 2018-02-04 07:23:48

Find out how I preserved all my eggs with this one CRAZY trick

Odalman 2018-02-04 19:07:49

Yeah the way I wrote that does seem like one of those shitty online ads.

Odalman 2018-02-04 19:07:53

Lol

ghostofthevolk 2018-02-12 13:36:53

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMIjEnXruVHtvgSVf6TgfUg

Fash Dragon 2018-03-09 01:15:23

This is the best channel and nobody uses it

Fash Dragon 2018-03-09 01:15:29

GROW T U R N I P S

Ragnar_Den_Ruda 2018-03-09 01:16:37

I have done that before actually in a suburban environment. Its a very easy and low maintenance crop.

Rock 2018-03-09 01:18:16

I tried growing crops and I ended up shooting a rabbit that ate said crops in rage... so I had rabbit for dinner, lol.

Ragnar_Den_Ruda 2018-03-09 01:18:38

Very chad.

Vice Commander Hunt 2018-03-09 01:18:40

Based

Malal 2018-03-09 01:18:55

Very based

Vice Commander Hunt 2018-03-09 01:19:04

Growing veggies to catch protein

Fuhrerious 2018-03-09 01:19:10

wranglestar is the shit

Rock 2018-03-09 01:19:25

I just got tired of the fucker eating my crops

Fuhrerious 2018-03-09 01:19:50

I watched his videos and decided I was going to be a homesteader, I got 6 acres of woods in spring city

Fash Dragon 2018-03-09 01:19:58

Best part about turnips is turnip greens

Fash Dragon 2018-03-09 01:20:31

The first person to call me a nigger is gonna catch these hands

Fuhrerious 2018-03-09 01:20:35

cut through the forest and was like fuck this

Fuhrerious 2018-03-09 01:20:40

now i just go there to shoot guns

Fash Dragon 2018-03-09 01:21:17

@Fuhrerious if you need a fella to work your land I know a guy pretty skills in forest ecosystem management

Fash Dragon 2018-03-09 01:21:28

He's our guy too

Malal 2018-03-09 01:53:32

https://youtu.be/uzCmQQZsQV4

Malal 2018-03-09 01:55:20

https://youtu.be/A49u94sH5H0

Malal 2018-03-09 01:55:27

https://youtu.be/fwaWOz1JFlI

Hand Banana 2018-03-09 03:54:14

@Rock Be careful on eating rabbit. You're probably good rn but in warmer months they have worms

Hand Banana 2018-03-09 03:56:58

I guess I'm wrong

Hand Banana 2018-03-09 03:56:58

http://www.unluckyhunter.com/2011/07/myth-or-fact-are-summer-rabbits-safe-to.html

Fash Dragon 2018-03-09 05:28:16

If you cook it good that wouldn't be an issue right?

Fash Dragon 2018-03-09 05:28:32

Regardless of whether or not it's true

Joey zyklon 2018-03-09 05:29:17

The worm eggs would most likely die, but would you stomach picking the worms out?

Hand Banana 2018-03-09 07:29:28

Worms is apparently rather false

Hand Banana 2018-03-09 07:29:30

Read the article

Hand Banana 2018-03-09 07:29:32

its short

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