the things that you never see in the media

@Grimm0175 So the Venezuelan economy didn't improve under Chavez presidency?

it was stable during the 1999's and the 2010s

after 2010 the economy went down

>No sanctions after 2010

...

it was also because

The Venezuelan economy was dependant of the Oil Prices

why? Because Chávez turned the country into a Monoproducer economy

yeah

Which it sold a majority too USA

the only product we exported and so on

was the OIL

so if the Oil Prices decreased, SO THE ECONOMY OF VENEZUELA DOES

USA has a police to make countries dependent on them only, giving them heavy leverage on sanctions etc.

Aha...like Socialism didn't destroy Anything

@Grimm0175 However, due to the oil reserves in Venezuela, doesn't that make Venezuela a dominante oil country that can sell oil dirt cheap being the leading producer? 🤔

@Grimm0175 It is ironic how you are spewing alot of the same opinions like major western news outlets spew.

Have you ever realize Venezuela can have another source of Income that is not Oil?

@Grimm0175 It can.

Tourism, Agriculture, Minery, Companies investing in the country

we have a great potential

we can become an Agricultural Power because our lands are so Fertile

that you can even Harvest nearly anything in the country

@Grimm0175 From my understanding, that is what the government was trying to do, with the help of selling oil and getting resources to deverisfy their economy, this is why USA has started to heavily meddle.

They do not want an independent Venezuela.

Can't you understand that?

Of course not...

of course not

it's not like that

part of the Economical Crisis was due to bad administration of the goverment

do you want to be independent or a slave?

The Public Investment in the country was incredibly high

and during the Chávez and Maduro regime, multiple Companies were closed or Expropiated

let me guess, you are a commie?

lol

>Yes I'm a commie

just saying

>My grandfather killed commies

>I'm a commie

wow

anyways

it's also because

>anyways

😂

when most of the time i talk with people about venezuela

then suddendly

Communists come 'ere and Defend Fucking Chavismo

I don't defend Chavismo because of his ideology.

and it's like "E X C U S E M E W H A T T H E F U C K?"

oh also i nearly forgot

I'm pointing out USA meddling and what foreigners want to do in Venezeula.

Chavismo is so Cancerous that also

People believe that...

CHÁVEZ IS A GOD

@Grimm0175 I'm not disputing this

@Grimm0175 However, Democracy has never come from foreign meddling it has come from within.

@balticnapo i posted it, just in case you didn't believe it

Foreign meddling has only lead to new dictatorship, less freedom etc.

but yeah definitely is not worth it

and i know the USA has the paper of "WORLD POLICE"

@Grimm0175 >Muh Chile

>Throw commies out of helis 😂

Eyyyy

>Muh economy

>Muh chicago boys

At least it's 100 times better trowing communist from Choppers than allowing them to DESTROY YOUR COUNTRY

you know?...

😂

anyways so yeah

i agree that the United States of America

how old are you? 😹

was meddling the policy of many Third World Nations

for a long time

and by this reason we can say, they can't be completely Independent

why? Because the Interests in there, also because of...

ofc

(((THEY)))

But you can always try to achive more atonomy.

And Russia and China are more willing to give that than USA.

like China and Russia doesn't does the same

they do the same

China is literally Colonizing Africa

@Grimm0175 China is nutorios for Africa

Yee

also to answer, i'm 18 years old now

so what?

>Teenagers debating about ideology

Congratulations, @balticnapo for reaching level 3!

A bit meme

material

i know you are going to say
>Teenagers are a meme discussing Ideologies

>ayy lmao

Judge history by the results it has achived.

And not by the words and imagery.

I know (((THEY))) are Behind the US

and they know no mercy

and (((THEY))) have

the Federal Reserve in their control

to be honest i don't want to sound like a Pesimist but i don't care about Jews anymore

if i was Donald. J Trump

i would Nuke Israel

no fucks given

@Grimm0175 He has too much to lose

He won't do it

They know it, he knows it.

It is just reality.

what do you mean about

He has too much too lose?

yes

but what do you mean with that?

Omg people defending dictatorships again

😂

...

@Ð4rkFlow >Not reading convo 😂

lol

Redpill Shark has nice goys

>We super HAPA

i bet you this dude supports National Socialism @Ð4rkFlow

😂

@Grimm0175 You really like to label me

First it was Commie

now Nazi

😂

So do you

i don't know why are you laughing, i don't find anything funny about this tbh

well

>People from Mutted countries supporting National Socialism

@Grimm0175 You are in a pretty bad spot, it is no laughing matter what is happening in your country.

@Grimm0175 >I'm american 😂

What bad spot?

Ey

El sombrero

Me be americano

me be hwhite

You have still have probabilities of having at least 5% of Negroid ADN you know?

@Grimm0175 Also, there is a nice genetic data about african DNA being pretty high % in south america, just a nice note on your comment about Negroids and Sandniggers.

They killed Gaddafi so let's link it with Venezuela it's the same thing oil bla bla bla bla

@Ð4rkFlow I KNOW RIGHT

LIKE THEY ARGUE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME SHIT

Venezuela is a very different Case

@Grimm0175 I didn't say that.

The theme is just very standard from USA.

and I've pointed them out.

I didn't said you say that

The sanctions, the global media hysteria, you name it.

i'm saying about people about it

...

i didn't mentioned you saying that biased argument tho

Sanctions omg

So Russia had sanctions too and is doing ok

omg 😂

dude if i had the Thanos glove, i would wish to have the powers of Teletransportation so

people from First World Countries can clearly see

WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING HERE

If only I could be a god of light 😂

@Grimm0175 I'm just trying to have a great time

Easy to say it from Twitter but they are actually too blind that they don't even realize the fact wich if you are aposed against Chavismo

you can be Imprisioned, Tortured or Killed

in the process

@Grimm0175 Well yeah, the country is in a state of emergency. If you are against Chavismo you are treated as a Traitor.

What good time? baltic?

i mean what good time

and what the fuck are you even laughing at?

Imagine having oil to sell and getting fucked couse the oil production was going to all time highs and the price going down

"You are in a bad spot ni🅱🅱a"

@Grimm0175 I'm laughing at the irony of this thread 😂

wich irony?

@Ð4rkFlow Sure, price drops limit the profit margins, but that doesn't mean you can't make profit. 👀

if your economy was never diversified, you will end having a Failed State

@Grimm0175 yeah I know that.

@Grimm0175 Personally, Autarky is what every country should strive for.

But that is bad and heavily demonized

Since that makes you independent.

@Grimm0175 https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Report-U.S.-Blockade-on-Venezuela-Has-Cost-US350-Billion-20190209-0011.html

this article claims that since 2013 the blockade has been the main cause of the poverty.

Lack of employment, money etc.

lmao

brb i'm going to eat my meal

and one more thing

Just because i'm Venezuelan doesn't mean that im a "MUERTO DE HAMBRE" (STARVING)

@Grimm0175 Didn't claim that...

i'm part of the 5-10% of the remaining middle class

now i'm middle-low class

i know you didn't

i just want to make an aclaratory

because in most of the cases when someone hears that i'm Venezuelan they are like

@Grimm0175 I guess you have only spoken to Americans.

Congratulations, @balticnapo for reaching level 4!

I'm Finnish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAzGNbuu3LU

How Americans 🇺🇸 portray Venezuelans 🇻🇪

Oh boi know nothing about what goin on here and think his country is the only one that fucks everything up

@balticnapo so...you're Finnish? 🇫🇮

@Ð4rkFlow what?

@Grimm0175 Yes I'm finnish, thought that would be useful information for you.

Are you gonna label me into another group now?

This American's that think USA is doing this by sanctions

Pro-EU shit? 😂

no

better

Snownigger? 👀

Personally

Finland should leave EU, boost our industry (Our industry is dying due to EU regulations, Heil Merkel)

And have better trade ties with Russia.

yes

wait why with Russia?

remember 1940

lol

r u retarded

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/428023686445006848/550016007171735553/hqdefault.png

Couse he is a commie

Congratulations, @Ð4rkFlow for reaching level 16!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/428023686445006848/550015954151669762/tumblr_p8q7qkxoVd1wjvco9o1_400.png

@Ð4rkFlow Okay mutt

>Ignoring a country bordering your country

Yeah

that totally works

😂

We are mutts but at least were not Brainlets

I'm a commie now 😂

Ey

Putin is communist

😂

i'm kidding

and no