@Aerron Tfm's idea is only net tax payers can vote for congress and only active military/veterans/people who signed up for the draft can vote for president. In this system, although some women will still be able to vote, very very few. That's only possible to put in place after we take women's rights away though

yeah its about walking away, rejection of gynocentrism

beyond that, your opinion on what MGTOW is means fuck all to everyone else

I thought you were against MGTOW anyways, its been a long time since I watched that video

Sex dolls = simping and pussy begging? How?

🤔

using a sex doll is no different from driving your car

is driving your car mean you a lazy sack of shit?

its a inanimate object that serves a purpose though

You are either a complete retard or intentionally acting retarded so you don't have to respond to what he said.

not sure what else to say to that

@KuroiToketsuHoshi we tried to talk to him, he won't reason.

this is the problem with trying to say MGTOW is anything beyond it's core principles

because now we're going down a rabbit hole

a really stupid one

No, what you said makes no sense and didn't address what he said in any way.

So your basically trying to baffle us with bull shit when someone says anything against your retarded assertions.

@MadShangi I don't know why you want to censor a conversation about women, why don't you just let everyone speak his mind

you're missing the entire point though. I bet you the amish would distain of you using a automobile. The same way you disdain of TFM using sex dolls

MGTOW is not about not needing women, MGTOW is the rejection of the toxic gynocentric behavior takig away the ressources of males

the amish would say you using a autombile is lazy or something like that

Sex dolls being compared to cars because they both serve a purpose to show that both are inanimate objects that serve a purpose. Your response is saying ''cars don't replace women'', completely avoiding what he just said entirely without addressing a single thing.

I'm trying to show you you're criticism is the same damn concept

''Not needing women or ruled by pussy'' Sex dolls make it so women literally have nothing that you want because you already have the one thing they can offer, sex. So it's the perfect solution, not the ''antithesis''

To be honest, i still love me some short-term relationships as long as i dont have to put in resources. I don't know where your problem is rooted. You seem to have deep rooted issues with that

Being intentionally obtuse again?

It's like if you had no legs and needed someone to carry you around everywhere on their shoulders. You get something only that person can give you, transportation. Now the wheel chair is invented and you get one. You've effectively replaced the need for the person that carried you.

and no, your just either retarded or acting retarded to not address points

I've said everything that needs to be said about your criticism, I know you arent gonna take it for pride's sake now, so it's up to you to either continue on, or take it later and change your mind

@MadShangi It doesn't matter if you fuck a real women because want to or if your needs are saturated with a sex doll. There is no rulebook for MGTOW.. One can be an unlucky incel because he is really ugly genetically and still be MGTOW because he doesn't put women/pussy on a pedestal

Either way, talking to you is a waste of time since logic and reason doesn't mean anything to you, so I'm donezo

because you still have urges to have intercourse, its that simple. a hardwired drive to procreate

I leave and then you @ me? What a retard. Blocked

Gosh, if i had the possibility to fuck a woman without having to fear the consequences of STDs, false accusations and wasting ressources i would gladly do it. but this a rare scenario nowadays

Stop feeding the troll

You need for external validation telling us that you can fuck a real woman makes me question your credibility. I won't spend money on a sexdoll, obviously but a sex doll won't get you to loose your job because someone cries and says you raped her

Since I already saw the retardation, I have to laugh at it. Again being intentionally obtuse(or your a total retard). You completely miss or pretend to miss the point of the analogy. The Person has a need that only the person could fulfill previous, then came the wheel chair that can serve the same purpose but with none of the drawbacks. The person is women and the wheel chair is a sex doll. I really hope your just being intentionally obtuse because damn your IQ would need to be reallly really low to not understand simply analogies and needing things to be exampled to THIS extent. You will prob be intentionally obtuse again so have fun with writing your bullshit. I already blocked you so I won't be seeing it either way.

I lost all hope with madshangi the moment he said not to take away women's rights. That alone functionally makes him no different from a male feminist

@Kaiser Dion Napoleon Doesn't want to take away unearned rights of women means he wants women to have unearned rights. Meaning he's just a male feminist.

@MadShangi And obviously you yet didn't encounter false rape accusations or emotionally abuse when it comes to ressources hence your opinions are still very inconsistent. You will probably understand as you age.

I'm not scheming shit, I'm stating the solution

He is a typical leftist

I'm not gonna do a god damn thing to make that happen, just stating the solution

taking away unearned rights is absolutely a solution

But women are taking mens rights away

Night boys o/

Cya round

Good chats

They literally tried to criminalize ghosting @MadShangi

If we are losers. Then why do talk to us>?

True @Mysteriedingens So delusional. Where does it end? Lol

go start a male feminist MGTOW community then

come brag to us how successful that is

I wish you good look in being a good loyal beta buxx

my ancestors fought in the fucking civil war, thats how

I'm also a veteran

Iraq war?

Hey soy boy where's your chin

Hehe ok I'm out

@MadShangi Give me some examples of the modern society benefitting men.

afghanastan actually

had a bunch of sergeants in my company from iraqi war

they can if they pay into the government more then they take out

@MadShangi I never claimed to desire to take womens rights away but they have more governmental support for example alimonys

They serve less time in prisons

I personally don't think women should vote

But there are some measurements that have to be taken to get back to the state of having equal oppurtinities

At the moment masculin beliefs are opressed by feminists

for it being a traditionalism fantasy, he sure gets most of his opposition from those very people =.=

getting opposition cannot be confused with oppression

For feminists male beliefs are depicted as oppression while female beliefs are taken as opposition

this is where the problem is originated

now I'm geniunely interested

so madshangi, do you date women?

whats your routine like?

LOL! You could've been cordial like this in the voice chat, @MadShangi.

so I get it then, you're what can be described as a MGTOW monk?

congratulations

but there are thoes types of MGTOWs who carry the slogan like religious zealots, similar kinda to the inquisition

I refer to those types as monks too

@MadShangi why do you treat incels as lower beings

incel is a state while mgtow is a decision

I wrote a whole document describting the various types of MGTOWs, I'm considering doing a video on it

incel means "involuntary celibate"

incel is more similar to feminists then to MGTOWs, but the difference is they can be helped

i don't know this guy but you don't seem to feel empathy for ugly guys that have to fight even more to get respect for their work

if you get your face burnt in a housefire and you turn into an incel because of that visual downgrade what makes you better than him

incels blaim everyone but themselves. source of their problem is lack of female attention. Thats what makes it simular to feminism. But the incels are in a war their destined to lose. So bringing them over to MGTOW can really save them

the thing is you most often consider an incel to a sociopath which is not particularly true

he is imprisoned by false desires, which is sad

not only did he kill 4 men, but 3 of those men were just as much losers as he was

epic fail

But can you blame him as society and hollywood always romantices love and emotional connection

if he had a mentor this may couldve been avoided

thats the side effect of all the mainstream crap that no one talks about

PUAs are like incels

PUA is a scam

I spoke to so many interesting people on here today

Good day

I dont even know why we consider PUAs as part of the red pill community. They are infact purple pill at best