So only the rich would privilege

Ye?

As technology advances, more environmentally friendly products will be created, then gradually they will become more wide spread among the public

Also the type of Capitalism I want is literally working in Lichentinestine

Socdem?

Lichentinestine is Minarchist

And has said any citizen may create a new nation if they disagree with the nation’s monarchy

We don’t have time for that. Capitalism is not going to be able to reduce carbon emissions fast enough to avert the most significant effects. As long as there’s oil and gas in ground people are gonna wanna take it out and burn it. And car manufacturers know in current economy they can still make tons of money selling less efficient cheaper to produce cars. Manufacturers are gonna hop onto renewables unless they can see an immediate profit incentive or are forced to.

Anyone ever just, create a new nation?

Manufacturers aren’t*

Yeah

But most people in Lichenstine are happy so they don’t really care

Also your wrong, because as it’s been proven, more environmentally friendly products are a lot more profitable, and keeps customer satisfaction high.

I’m not contesting the quality of the products

Manufacturing is a whole other thing

And bottom line is

If we don’t force them to stop eventually, businesses will 100% keep extracting oil and gas and burning it until we’ve used up all the oil. If that happens, the climate is already kinda fucked. There is no profit incentive for choosing to keep it in the ground

Not really

Oil prices are dropping

It’s not becoming economically viable anymore

Nuclear Energy is the future, and synthetic oil is the future

Oil is dropping bc of the temporary decrease in demand due to pandemic and bc of price wars between Russia and the uae

I just don’t buy your gonna get people to voluntarily stop selling oil and gas bc it’s not good long term planting

Obviously that wouldn’t be the reason

I mean state force isn’t the way either

Tell that to all of Eastern Europe

Why?

Western *

Bc those policies are in place there

Ah makes more sense

Gas and gas cars are taxed into oblivion

It’s so stupid

Taxation🤮

Something like 70% of new cars bought in Northern Europe are hybrids

So it works

Well if it’s between taxation and every coastline city on earth being destroyed by flooding, I’m opening my wallet to Uncle Sam

I’m not

You should move to Barbados

Okay?

Not in like “ if you don’t like America you can move” kinda way

I just think their tax policy would be amenable to your Philosophy

Probably not

No your right it’s Bermuda not Barbados. The countries with no income tax are Bermuda, Monaco, UAE and Andorra

UAE?

BASEDDDD

You know UAE is hella socialist right?

Oil fields are completely state owned

They do what Venezuela tried to, they just didn’t fuck it up. They turned oil revenues into diversified national investment funds and use profits from that fund to pay for social programs

Same thing Norway does and Venezuela tried to

> You know UAE is hella socialist right?
@alois uae is literally mixed economy like America. State oil big deal. The only reason they didn’t fuck up with it is because they have good relations with everyone and it’s such a small country it doesn’t pose any sort of danger to anyone.

Bruh when people says socialist in America they don’t mean marixst lenninist socialist. They just mean countries with substantial social safety net

Welfare stars

UAE is socialist by that def. And have state owned industries

Welfare states

That's not socialist, that's just welfare nations

Socdem at best

Which isnt really socialist

I just aknowledged this

But some people consider any kinda social welfare programs as socialist.

Yeah but those people are dumb dumbs

I agree

So why did you say UAE is socialist then?

But the person I was responding to initially thinks all taxes are theft and there should be no gov programs excerpt military. And he said UAE was based. So I was pointing out that from his point of view UAE was hella “ socialist”

Bc I mentioned UAE had no income tax

Ah ok

Wtf

I think there’s too many taxes

But

I don’t want an anarchy

You mean the other dude right?

Yeah

The mod

Oh

Is he ancap?

People who put anarcho in front of their ideology are cringe

There is no state to enforce their ideology

Doesn’t list it. Just libertarian and capitalist

So it’s just anarchism

Oh

Libertarianism is kinda eh

A little too ambitious with drugs and stuff

@alois y u no has roles?

Just haven’t bothered. Only been on sub like a week. Is it mandatory,

?

Not mandatory, but it does help with knowing your stances

And it helps us trust you and know if you're gonna stick around. People with roles tend to be more accountable, active, and stick around more often from my observations while being here

Granted I know you since you're based and have been around for a bit

But still

Might fill em out later

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Best evidence for voter fraud I’ve seen yet

ikr

@Grilled Sirloin Steak Fuck

You got me good

*shit*

It’s done guys. Pennsylvania is guarantee

It’s over

I accept your peacefully resignation

peaceful*

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