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Vincent TX @PF-4354
Thomas @thomas

Brandon CA
PF-178823
Nathan CA
thomas
Thomas
PF-109720
Alexander OR
PF-4352
Bryan NV
PF-368542
Carl CA
PF-631628
Christopher CA
PF-973332
Frederick OR
PF-650191
Gabriel CA
PF-2057
Gary CA
PF-7674
Josh CA
PF-935365
Logan CA
PF-784735
Norman CA
PF-3219
Paul CA
PF-3524
Raymond CA
PF-4782
Travis CA

Thomas @thomas
Missing attachment: Clipboard - December 9, 2021 8:26 AM
Vincent TX @PF-4354

:D

Thomas @thomas

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Vincent TX @PF-4354

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Thomas @thomas

Where is this?

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Monterey TN

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Sent video on Threema

Thomas @thomas

This is a scripted message. Please make sure to review the recent announcement. Thank you.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

When paired with the information we have gathered so far, the information we gathered tonight further points to Norman CA. While there is a possibility of having more than one infiltrator, he is my most suspect member at present. He was on all lists except NJP. I'm not satisfied with that at all though. I have started conversations with cluster leaders regarding the members who used VPNs tonight, mostly for character assessment. In the case of Ethan OH I am particularly curious. he was using Tor which is a common Antifa tool, I have never seen a PF member use or talk about Tor. I have started a conversation with Ryan OH regarding him.

What tonight helps me to confirm is that we did not have an active technical breach, rather we have had multiple infiltrators working together. This can give the appearance of an "all seeing eye" that one would think is only attainable from some sort of admin access, but in reality it's just two or more guys working together. While it is good for us to understand this, this type of attack is harder to be rid of than a purely technical one. Whereas we can patch an exploit with a simple update, we cannot so easily determine someones allegiance without a proper plan. A plan to deal with highly suspect members must be determined beyond just deactivating an account and hoping we are right, like Battleship...

What we know.
- The current infiltrator knew about John's meeting on Monday (Only Johns network and California Regional members were aware)
- The current infiltrator was in this last meeting (Over 100 attendees)


I need to go over the list of PNW guys again and cross reference further. My untimely move has made this process difficult, but I will be at my destination tomorrow evening.

Thomas @thomas

Leo OR used his phone in an unauthorized moment, confirm that story with John.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Ok

Thomas @thomas

Leo was also doxxed, so I would say forget that for now.

Once we get that list of 100 I can take it a good ways from there. It's not technical, it's all social. Just getting the right lists together finds us our guy.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

I am getting ot over to Jason

Thomas @thomas

Thank you.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Jason has the file

Vincent TX @PF-4354

I'm gonna get moving

Thomas @thomas

Ty.

Thomas @thomas

Are you ready to begin interviewing?

Thomas @thomas

We have an updated script to review, and obviously need as much help as is available.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

I can start tonight yes

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Ready whenever you are

Thomas @thomas

Calling you.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Can you send me the script. I would like to look over it while I am verifying people and getting ready for NW10 meeting.

Thomas @thomas

How about I just add you to the interviewers channel and you can get it there and hop on tonight?

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Ok, our meeting is at 9EST, I might be able to get in on a couple before then

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Would like to sit in on a couple first, maybe take notes

Thomas @thomas

You'll go through standard training with Jesse AR giving you final confirmation.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Perfect

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Tech Task List

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Given the severity of the leaks and investigation at large, no way I have time for interviews. I want to focus on this. You can remove me.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

It looks like they have everyone they need right now anyways.

Thomas @thomas

Just ignore the interviewer chat for the time being.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Roger

Vincent TX @PF-4354

I'm trying really hard with this, I'm not getting discouraged.

Thomas @thomas

Get Samuel on it. He can delay event planning stuff until it's done.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

On what?

Thomas @thomas

On the investigation as well.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

I'll give him a call in a little bit

Thomas @thomas

Make it happen.

Thomas @thomas

MESSAGE COPY & PASTE DUMP

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There is information in that dox which came directly from Vincent's accomplice, and that person is in the NW.

When you take all the people who saw the message about the plates, and remove those who have already been doxxed, you get:
Ethan
David
Jack
Alexander
Johnny
Marcus
Walter
Unless it can be explained how it isn't someone on that list, it is.

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:00 PM (#22023)
Can you show me what information you are referring to

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:01 PM (#7341)


This?

thomas
Thomas @Thomas :ar-blue::ar-white::ar-red:
7:01 PM (#22452)
Yes.

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:02 PM (#29364)
They have someone working in the DOL.
Nobody else besides myself would know whether or not he actually changed his plates.

thomas
Thomas @Thomas :ar-blue::ar-white::ar-red:
7:02 PM (#11226)
Are you aware of the people photographed in the airport?

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:02 PM (#14682)
Yeah I saw that

thomas
Thomas @Thomas :ar-blue::ar-white::ar-red:
7:03 PM (#16839)
Who is in the photo?

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:03 PM (#22023)
Frederick is convinced it was a black woman with green hair who kept glaring at us, and was around the same spot that photo was photographed
Clarke and David
And Fred

thomas
Thomas @Thomas :ar-blue::ar-white::ar-red:
7:03 PM (#16839)
Just those two?
And Frederick.

Who all was present in the airport at that time?

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:04 PM (#88092)
John, David, Ethan, Clarke, Jack, Fred, Alex, Leo, Matthew
It’s not impossible to get a cheap flight and make it through security and to go to the gate we’re at. Vincent knew what flight to buy.

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:15 PM (#22023)
Alex didn’t know about the vehicle exchange

thomas
Thomas @Thomas :ar-blue::ar-white::ar-red:
7:15 PM (#5613)
How do you know that?

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:16 PM (#22023)
I confiscated his phone
Myself, and my two drivers Jack and Ethan had phones
both men marched.
Alex marched

thomas
Thomas @Thomas :ar-blue::ar-white::ar-red:
7:16 PM (#11226)
What was the damage to those two vehicles?

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:17 PM (#29364)
Ethan has tires popped

thomas
Thomas @Thomas :ar-blue::ar-white::ar-red:
7:17 PM (#44904)
On the rental?

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:17 PM (#14682)
Jack’s was painted up
Yes

thomas
Thomas @Thomas :ar-blue::ar-white::ar-red:
7:17 PM (#22452)
Who was financially liable for that, if anyone?

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:17 PM (#14682)
The drivers
Jack and Ethan
1 guy each car

thomas
Thomas @Thomas :ar-blue::ar-white::ar-red:
7:18 PM (#33678)
How much did they pay?

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:18 PM (#88092)
$900
Avis waved the damaged for us

thomas
Thomas @Thomas :ar-blue::ar-white::ar-red:
7:18 PM (#16839)
Together or separate?

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:18 PM (#88092)
Together on Ethan’s

thomas
Thomas @Thomas :ar-blue::ar-white::ar-red:
7:18 PM (#67356)
When you say waived the damage, what do you mean?

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:18 PM (#22023)
Originally we didn’t have insurance
but the company waved it
Vincent talked Ethan into not getting insurance
Avis (rental company) heard about our situation (not mentioning PF) they let us off the hook with the damage.

thomas
Thomas @Thomas :ar-blue::ar-white::ar-red:
7:20 PM (#11226)
How was the VE location given to your vehicles? Verbally?

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:20 PM (#7341)
Through rocket by Sam I believe

thomas
Thomas @Thomas :ar-blue::ar-white::ar-red:
7:21 PM (#5613)
And only those two had their phones?

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:21 PM (#14682)
Correct
But we didn’t do pat downs.
Anyone could’ve had a tracker or a phone.

thomas
Thomas @Thomas :ar-blue::ar-white::ar-red:
7:22 PM (#11226)
I didn't ask you those other two questions. Please keep to answering the questions I am asking.

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:22 PM (#58728)
Okay

thomas
Thomas @Thomas :ar-blue::ar-white::ar-red:
7:23 PM (#33678)
Back to the license plates. You proposed that there is someone working at the DMV or equivalent releasing the information?

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:23 PM (#44046)
That would make sense.
Idk how else they get info from plates alone.
But I’d have been doxxed a long time ago
according to Lawrence, Felix WA was doxxed through the DOL

thomas
Thomas @Thomas :ar-blue::ar-white::ar-red:
7:25 PM (#5613)
The other option is there is an accomplice that saw your message or heard Clarke say he was getting new plates. Which he did state in the meeting.
You likely haven't been doxxed yet because they're saving yours for last.
So if we see yours that'll be the silver lining.

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:27 PM (#1

Thomas @thomas

7:27 PM (#14682)
They’ve had my plates for years

thomas
Thomas @Thomas :ar-blue::ar-white::ar-red:
7:27 PM (#11226)
As I said.

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:27 PM (#14682)
I think Ethan is next

thomas
Thomas @Thomas :ar-blue::ar-white::ar-red:
7:28 PM (#16839)
If he isn't, he's our prime suspect.
👍🏻 1

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:28 PM (#22023)
I’ve had joindeleteme filled out for 2 years now. And no social media.

thomas
Thomas @Thomas :ar-blue::ar-white::ar-red:
7:28 PM (#67356)
Tell me about Alexander.

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:28 PM (#44046)
I’d be appalled really
thomas 7:28 PM
If he isn't, he's our prime suspect.
Alexander used to be a gay tranny Antifa

thomas
Thomas @Thomas :ar-blue::ar-white::ar-red:
7:28 PM (#50517)
I was appalled to hear that both our vehicle sites were attacked at once by knife wielding maniacs. I am not surprised by anything else so far.

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:28 PM (#66069)
But, he’s been a good friend too.

thomas
Thomas @Thomas :ar-blue::ar-white::ar-red:
7:29 PM (#44904)
What proves to me that it isn't Alexander?

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:29 PM (#117456)



thomas
Thomas @Thomas :ar-blue::ar-white::ar-red:
7:30 PM (#5613)
I assume our accomplice has a valid photo ID, yes.

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:30 PM (#14682)
What would you like me to do to prove whether or not these guys are an accomplice?

thomas
Thomas @Thomas :ar-blue::ar-white::ar-red:
7:31 PM (#22452)
Speak to the information you know of that is relevant.

PF-3194
ND - John WA @ND - John WA :ar-white:
7:32 PM (#29364)
Alexander’s vehicle wasn’t at PNW hike. Therefore his plate wasn’t able to be photographed by Vincent.

Thomas @thomas
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Thomas @thomas

Matthew MN is going to be leaving the org and all associated projects because he's too worried about something or other. Will explain it to me personally. Be ready to reassign or remove his access to anything.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

tak tak

Thomas @thomas

English, please.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Well , well

Thomas @thomas

Elaborate, please.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Its actually polish. It means yes yes

Vincent TX @PF-4354

So I will do whatever needs to be done

Vincent TX @PF-4354

The right red hand burns, I don't discriminate

Thomas @thomas

The right red hand?

Vincent TX @PF-4354

bro...

Thomas @thomas

You're the one speaking to me in riddles after 10 p.m.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

" God's red right hand, which will strike vengeance on the devil"

Thomas @thomas

Not studied on the bible, so that explains my lack of understanding.

Thomas @thomas

Anyways.

Thomas @thomas

Be prepared for Matthew to make one of the dumbest decisions of his life in the next 24 hours.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Roger

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Just message me on threema if its go time

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Will be afk

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Matthew left the telegram chats we had set up. I preemptively removed him from tech team just now but left his account active.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

It seems he made his choice

Thomas @thomas

Sam MN told me he was leaving, so I said I needed to hear it from the source. Maybe he was too cowardly to express his cowardice and chose the ultimate path of disrespect.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Would you like me to give him a call?

Thomas @thomas

I would like to actually see or hear the words, yes.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Matthew should e reaching out to you. I spoke with him breifly.

Thomas @thomas

Okay. Whatever it is. Being in or out is a binary thing. His choice to make. I just follow through.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Understood

Vincent TX @PF-4354

I will keep him out of the tech stuff for now. I am of the opinion that everyone on that team in particular needs to be far removed from thoughts of "is this where I want to be".

Thomas @thomas

He needs time to get his mind straight. Maybe looking at all the leaks got him paranoid.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Did you speak with him?

Thomas @thomas

No. He hasn't said a word to me directly.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Alright, let me know if he hasn't spoken to you by end of day

Thomas @thomas

We want to be wary of the kind of tech-escalation going on with Paul. Not saying it's a bad thing, it isn't, but if they can tell, or assume, it's coming from us, we would need to be prepared for the same thing, which we won't be able to do until the pressing investigation is done.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Would you like me to have him perform more passive tasks

Thomas @thomas

I just want you to be cognizant of that aspect and use your best judgment for now.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Ok

Vincent TX @PF-4354

FYI I will be going to a church function tonight so I will not be around to verify folks.

Thomas @thomas

Np.

Vincent TX @PF-4354

Where was this located?

Thomas @thomas

in the custom script settings in the administrator area, but it was hidden so I never saw it, but you'd have to be an admin

Thomas @thomas

Tell no one, not even Paul, about the script.

Thomas @thomas

No one but me, Jason, and Jake.

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