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Well Norman CA is up in Northern California, young kid, 17 years old and still in High school. He joined roughly a month ago so very recent addition to the California region. He attended the Western drilling event set up by Jon UT back near the end of November and also attended the recent D.C. event. He in person interviewers (Josh, Paul and Christopher CA I think we're all there) had good things to say about him from the interview.