Interviewee- 681985
34/UT/Salt Lake City
12/11/21
Conductor: Jason NY
Notetaker: Sam MN
Accepted

Test Question: How long ago did you send in your application?
About a week ago.

Initial Filtering Questions:
1. 34 years old
2. Resides in UT, is a permanent member
3. Salt Like City
4. Never interviewed before
5. Has a personal vehicle.
6. Has a past of substance abuse, but could abstain from all substances.
7. Was charged with DWI
8. Was in the military from 2005-2013
9. Has no ailments.

Secondary Evaluative Questionnaire:
1. Always was a conservative, raised in Texas. His dad would point out things in movies. He was Republican. After his second deployment he shifted focus and questioned things. In the last five years he is switching towards a national socialist ideology. After his first deployment he was questioning 9/11. That’s when he started breaking out of the Republican box and started listening to Alex Jones. Jones got him looking in the right direction. Listened to him for years. Around the time he got out of the army he moved to UT (2013). That’s when he started looking at political happenings. He saw problems with the Obama administration. He liked Trump. After a couple years he realized that Trump wasn’t backing up what he was saying. Got black-pilled. During that time, he was listening to Devon Stack. Loved his videos about the agendas in movies. Found Asha Logos, got into their online community on Matrix. For about a year he communicated with people on there and found other people. ‘Way of the World,’ for example. Was always a fan of history. Started asking questions about the history of WW2, what actually happened, what the other side thinks. Watched ‘The Last Battle,’ and ‘Firestorm.’ Before he listened to Stefan Molyneux. Back then he believed in no state. Now he thinks we need a state to harness the ability of having everyone together as a team, working towards a common goal. Started leaning towards Socialism. Realized that it wasn’t just socialism because the concept of the nation as a related people or ethnos started believing in the nation state principle. Culminated in the last year.
2. He defers to calling himself a national socialist, but is sure there’s a better label. A people is like a family, need a way to secure their future and protect against outside influence. They need a representative. Grew up patriotic; in the multicultural schools he went to he noticed that people were different. It took many years of getting out of bad programming and getting into new learning. Some people are more related to each other than others. Mashing us all together causes groups to lose their identity and become a mish mash of slaves. He came to an epiphany that the only way to become free was to have an identity and knowing where you come from, linking with your family and lineage and blood. He recognized that you need the strength from uniting under a state, a state that serves the people that it’s meant to serve.
3. Found out about PF at the beginning of this year, wanted to interview but his dad was becoming ill. So he was occupied with caring for him. After he died, he was tired of sitting around and was waiting for an organized movement to take shape. Thinks PF is that movement. Originally heard out about us through Asha Logos’ TPP. Looked into it and made a mental note of it. Now he thinks its legit and wants to be on board. After his dad died, he entered a period of self-reflection. Saw the recent DC march and thought it was awesome. Would commit to all our activities. Wants to be in the place of action when it comes to the movement of securing our existence and providing a future for our children.
4. Civic nationalism is detaching from the people, and only attaching to the state. It is a contradiction; the root of the nation is people. Anyone can have a membership card, that doesn’t make you one connected body. There’s an ethnic component to being an American; European stock. Europeans came and built this nation. If they hadn’t, they wouldn’t have brought their ideas, organization, and culture – and it wouldn’t be called American. American means having lineage and ancestry to the European continent.