Interviewee- 28405
AGE/STATE/CITY
11/29/21
Conductor: Randolph IL
Notetaker: Sam MN

ACCEPTED

UNAFILLIATE
-- In-depth Questions --

Q1: Early December event, referred by John UTAH

Q2: 30 years old

Q3: UTAH, Salt Lake City

Q4: Charged with misdemeanor for trespassing on what he thought was public property. Works for an agency evolved in firefighting – seasonal work.

Q5: Attended an NJP event, has flyer for NJP and PF in the past.

Q6: Not dependent on any substances.

Q7: Could abstain from violence.

Q8: John UT and several others. No problems with members.

Q9: Could commit to silence.

Q10: Yes, physically fit.

Q11: No medical training beyond basic knowledge.
Q12: Has seen us do banner drops, rallies, and a lot of stickering.

Q13: Was a previous member in 2019. Joined, but his full chapter got kicked out for inactivity. Not seeking membership right now.

Your unaffiliate

Yes

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Interviewee-576300
35/Salt Lake City/Utah
12/06/21
Conductor: Jesse AR
Notetaker: Tyler SD

Accepted

Test Q: How long ago did you send in your application?
Answer: About a week ago.


-- Applicant Information --

Personal Transportation: Yes.

Permanent Resident: Yes.

Political Ideology: Doesn't have political ideology, "can appreciate Life, Liberty, and Victory", used to consider self conservative, thinks it's bullshit now. Feels strongly about abortion, immigration, CRT/education, gay rights, vaccination, religious freedoms.

Drug Abuse: Was an alcoholic, has been sober for almost 7 years.

Religion: Roman Catholic. No issues working with activists of other religions.

Why Join: Wants to contribute, sick of standing on sidelines as Country falls, wants to restore it for future generations and experience what he was able to experience. Wants to join PF in particular because we're out there actively doing effective activism.

Skills: Martial artist (Taekwondo (black belt), with a mix of BJJ), grey man opsec, "amateur espionage" (lockpicking, night vision). Outdoorsman in younger days: hiking & camping.

Read Manifesto: Yes, agreed with all of it.

-- In-depth Questions --

Q1: Has not interviewed in process before.

Q2: Had felony burglery charges from when he was an addolecent that were sealed and expunged. Nothing currently (won't pop on background check). No federal/military affiliation.

Q3: No restricting physical or mental ailments.

Q4: 9/11 made him start paying attention. Has become jaded with modernity (vax, rigged election) and it's pushed him further to the Right. Was a part of the proud boys for a little bit, went away from them because of their alcohol use.

Q5: Found out about PF through Telegram (Patriot Alerts, Western Chauv, Proud Boys), was through activism demos (D.C. most recently) that got him to join.

Q6: Heard of it, doesn't know definition. Believes immigrants can become Americans; believes America is an idea independently of ethnicity. Describes ideal America as industrious and White. Later admits that ethnicity IS a critical part of being American because it was the intention for the start, it's what needs to be protected.

Q7: Family has been in US for at least 4 generations, speculates somewhere over 100 years. Family originated from Germany, Scotland, Ireland, Italy, Portugal.

Q8: Used to be with Proud Boys, went to Trump rally with them once, went to bars with them (which is why he left). In for about a year. Has not been doxxed. Based off of PF activism seen, believes he can fit in and help out.

Q9: Believes violence is justified when there is immediate life-threatening danger. Also believes that there's generally a place for violence, but only after all attempts at peace have failed.

Q10: Had a fight over 10 years ago with "some thugs" after drinking.

Q11: Can make self available at almost any time, very flexible.

Q12: Communists are biggest threat to US. Communism exists in US to destroy White America. Believes white people in particular are targeted because we are strong and the largest threat to them. Believes there's a jewish agenda (but also mentions "black agenda").

Q13: Gets information from Telegram (Western Chauvenist, Covid Red-Pills, Punished Disidents, Proud Boys, One Whites).

Q14: Labels self as White Nationalist, has starting describing self as such starting about 2.5 years ago unappoligetically. Grew up in a ghetto in CA, became aware of "things not being right", especially after an incident where his friend covered up a highlighter to spell "Hitler" and getting suspended. Saw muslim immigrants getting free rent when his family was paying in full.

Q15: Believes his religion is at odds in some ways, but has reconsiled them through strictly following what Roman Catholicism used to be.

Q16: Doesn't read much, read a Nikki Haley book recently and made connection that it was much of the same mainstream garbage.

Q17: Physically fit, 5'10" and 165 lbs, lacking cardio but willing to improve; can run a mile in under 10 minutes. Can hike for a very long time though. Experience in Taekwondo (black belt, 15 years), capable of training others (actually did so for a long time).

Q18: Nuclear family (same race wife and husband) with lots of kids is ideal. Today differs because of anti-White agenda: single moms, loser dads, race-mixing. Parents divorced, neither remarried.

Q19: Admires Thomas Jefferson the most, his tenacity and willingness to fight for freedom.

Q20: Most despised figure would be Bill Gates (or Zuckerberg), for using money to destroy America.

Q21: Coordinated movements are required, destroying subversive corperations. PF fits in line with what he believes needs to be done in terms of organization.

Q22: In the future he sees self in concentration camp if everything keeps up. Wants to contribute to preventing that.

Interviewee- 681985
34/UT/Salt Lake City
12/11/21
Conductor: Jason NY
Notetaker: Sam MN
Accepted

Test Question: How long ago did you send in your application?
About a week ago.

Initial Filtering Questions:
1. 34 years old
2. Resides in UT, is a permanent member
3. Salt Like City
4. Never interviewed before
5. Has a personal vehicle.
6. Has a past of substance abuse, but could abstain from all substances.
7. Was charged with DWI
8. Was in the military from 2005-2013
9. Has no ailments.

Secondary Evaluative Questionnaire:
1. Always was a conservative, raised in Texas. His dad would point out things in movies. He was Republican. After his second deployment he shifted focus and questioned things. In the last five years he is switching towards a national socialist ideology. After his first deployment he was questioning 9/11. That’s when he started breaking out of the Republican box and started listening to Alex Jones. Jones got him looking in the right direction. Listened to him for years. Around the time he got out of the army he moved to UT (2013). That’s when he started looking at political happenings. He saw problems with the Obama administration. He liked Trump. After a couple years he realized that Trump wasn’t backing up what he was saying. Got black-pilled. During that time, he was listening to Devon Stack. Loved his videos about the agendas in movies. Found Asha Logos, got into their online community on Matrix. For about a year he communicated with people on there and found other people. ‘Way of the World,’ for example. Was always a fan of history. Started asking questions about the history of WW2, what actually happened, what the other side thinks. Watched ‘The Last Battle,’ and ‘Firestorm.’ Before he listened to Stefan Molyneux. Back then he believed in no state. Now he thinks we need a state to harness the ability of having everyone together as a team, working towards a common goal. Started leaning towards Socialism. Realized that it wasn’t just socialism because the concept of the nation as a related people or ethnos started believing in the nation state principle. Culminated in the last year.
2. He defers to calling himself a national socialist, but is sure there’s a better label. A people is like a family, need a way to secure their future and protect against outside influence. They need a representative. Grew up patriotic; in the multicultural schools he went to he noticed that people were different. It took many years of getting out of bad programming and getting into new learning. Some people are more related to each other than others. Mashing us all together causes groups to lose their identity and become a mish mash of slaves. He came to an epiphany that the only way to become free was to have an identity and knowing where you come from, linking with your family and lineage and blood. He recognized that you need the strength from uniting under a state, a state that serves the people that it’s meant to serve.
3. Found out about PF at the beginning of this year, wanted to interview but his dad was becoming ill. So he was occupied with caring for him. After he died, he was tired of sitting around and was waiting for an organized movement to take shape. Thinks PF is that movement. Originally heard out about us through Asha Logos’ TPP. Looked into it and made a mental note of it. Now he thinks its legit and wants to be on board. After his dad died, he entered a period of self-reflection. Saw the recent DC march and thought it was awesome. Would commit to all our activities. Wants to be in the place of action when it comes to the movement of securing our existence and providing a future for our children.
4. Civic nationalism is detaching from the people, and only attaching to the state. It is a contradiction; the root of the nation is people. Anyone can have a membership card, that doesn’t make you one connected body. There’s an ethnic component to being an American; European stock. Europeans came and built this nation. If they hadn’t, they wouldn’t have brought their ideas, organization, and culture – and it wouldn’t be called American. American means having lineage and ancestry to the European continent.

1. His mom is Hungarian, born in Yugoslavia. His dad has been Texan going back three generations, from Tennessee - is Scottish-German. Calls himself a Hungary-Texan.
   6. Was raised Christian non-denominational and still holds to those beliefs, as far as the ethics go. Goes to church and reads the bible. Has sometimes felt conflict between politics and religion. Left wingers cite scripture to justify their ideology, but it is taken out of context. Sometimes it causes him to question things. Wouldn’t have issues working with other religions, as long as it’s a European linked religion.
   7. He is disciplined, organized. Was in the army for 8 years. Was a wild land firefighter. He is used to the importance of following orders and understanding why you’re doing what you’re doing. Maintenance, handy man skills. Could provide leadership, fitness, motivation. He passed an EMT class and is scheduled to take the exam next year, January. Wants to become a fire fighter.
   8. Goes to the gym a minimum every other day. Could run 10 miles. Did military combatives course and a year of Judo, achieved a green belt.
   
   Tertiary Evaluative Questionnaire:
   1. Hasn’t done any activism, other than when he was a kid with his parents. Most of his family is conservative or civnat. Some friends go further, others could come around. Wants to organize because its working. Could help make signs, put up stickers, spray paint. Likes our “No poison” slogan, and the stencils. Would love to be a part of demonstrations. Could help with medical service.
   2. The biggest threat to America is immigration. We don’t have control of the media or education. Education is huge; they push this backwards ideology there. Media reinforces it. We’re not in the position to be able to guide and secure our future, and that’s where we should be.
   3. Violence is justified when you’re being attack of if there is an imminent threat. You could initiate it if you could clearly prove the threat was imminent and deadly. Doesn’t believe violence is a viable choice for political change. Could remain peaceful under provocation or attack. Understands and agrees with violence statement.
   4. A couple years back there was a short confrontation but didn’t come to blows.
   5. Likes to watch Asha Logos, Devon Stack, Daily Shoah, No More News, and White Rabbit Radio.
   6. Starship Troopers was impactful on him. So was Bronze Age Mindset, and Mein Kampf.
   7. Ideal family structure is a mother and father and kids. Today, fathers are perceived as an idiot (if he’s white), but mostly single mothers are portrayed on commercials. Mothers are in a masculine, backwards, role. Or there’s interracial relations. Race-mixing isn’t good. His parents didn’t divorce, stuck together. His upbringing was fairly in line with the ideal.
   8. Admires Stonewall Jackson for his ability in the Valley Campaign to take smaller numbers and outmaneuver larger numbers and supplies. Shows a good commitment.
   9. Despises Alexander Hamilton for his push towards a central bank.
   10. Flaw of nationalist movement today is division. Understandable because its new. We need focus, direction, and sobriety. More understanding where we’re coming from, a boldness. Sees PF working, the early stages of something that could potentially garner support from all across country. Likes our nonviolent approach. Wants to be a part of our success.
   11. Wants to get hired by fire department. Wants to farm and raise a family. Would be fine with dying for the cause.
   12. Is certain that he’s been truthful.
   13. We should let him in because he’s a good guy, has a lot to contribute. Wants to be a part of the team.

Thank you Sam