Message from @Beemann

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2018-09-07 01:46:27 UTC  

And didn't you jsut say your solution was to "un-cuck Germany"

2018-09-07 01:46:31 UTC  

No, it's not.

2018-09-07 01:46:48 UTC  

I see no evidence that China is in any way becoming less censorious. If anything, It's becoming more.

2018-09-07 01:46:57 UTC  

You can't talk about Winnie the Pooh in China.

2018-09-07 01:47:10 UTC  

>Europe is structured the same as China
>China is going to survive

2018-09-07 01:47:18 UTC  

And "people use VPNs" isn't an answer when the VPNs are targeted and the US and Europe are the same.

2018-09-07 01:47:25 UTC  

Not an argument.

2018-09-07 01:47:32 UTC  

China is getting reamed by it's own media now

2018-09-07 01:47:39 UTC  

No it's not.

2018-09-07 01:47:50 UTC  

The media in the US and Europe, maybe.

2018-09-07 01:47:58 UTC  

But as a whole the government is completely in control.

2018-09-07 01:48:10 UTC  

I'm done. You're not arguing. Just "nu-uh-ing"

2018-09-07 01:48:14 UTC  

The Chinese media has criticized the government multiple times in the past couple of years. Openly

2018-09-07 01:48:26 UTC  

Only when the party is OK with the criticism.

2018-09-07 01:48:39 UTC  

They can kill the criticism at any time.

2018-09-07 01:48:55 UTC  

And they do if it becomes too much or they don't plan to change something later.

2018-09-07 01:49:07 UTC  

You're delusional if you think it's not controlled.

2018-09-07 01:49:24 UTC  

Whatever happened to "un-cuck Germany"

2018-09-07 01:49:35 UTC  

You still haven't said anything about how to do that.

2018-09-07 01:49:39 UTC  

You're ignorant if you don't see how historically that shit has worked out

2018-09-07 01:50:00 UTC  

Germany is going to get fucked by the collapse of the EU and the anger of its own people

2018-09-07 01:50:02 UTC  

You're ignorant if you don't see how censorship has survived and thrived in most of history.

2018-09-07 01:50:09 UTC  

No, it's not.

2018-09-07 01:50:22 UTC  

It's just going to clamp down in some parts and adapt in others.

2018-09-07 01:50:25 UTC  

As will the EU.

2018-09-07 01:50:33 UTC  

How long do authoritarian governments last once they start being openly mocked?

2018-09-07 01:50:35 UTC  

A couple protests don't matter. Those are routine.

2018-09-07 01:50:41 UTC  

Potentially generations.

2018-09-07 01:50:53 UTC  

Most civilizations in history made fun of the king in parts.

2018-09-07 01:51:04 UTC  

>in parts

2018-09-07 01:51:15 UTC  

There's genuine unrest in China, on multiple fronts

2018-09-07 01:51:39 UTC  

This isn't "everyone becomes silenced" it's "the people who are debating are the approved people"

2018-09-07 01:51:50 UTC  

You'll always see something like unrest but it's all controlled.

2018-09-07 01:51:58 UTC  

This isn't black-and-white.

2018-09-07 01:52:16 UTC  

And there's been unrest in China since the dawn of Chinese civilizations.

2018-09-07 01:52:20 UTC  

>it's either controlled or it doesn't happen
>stop being so binary

2018-09-07 01:52:28 UTC  

M8

2018-09-07 01:52:30 UTC  

Please

2018-09-07 01:52:38 UTC  

They still had dynasties that lasted longer than the US

2018-09-07 01:52:44 UTC  

Nice ad hominim.

2018-09-07 01:52:56 UTC  

I'm done. You're worse than a brick wall.