There's also the fact that the SJW left is literally a cult and that makes any attempt to engage with it completely pointless.

but if people on a chatroom with similar interests cant even find the common ground... what hope is there for the people sittign on the edges of the extreeme

ya sjw has become a religion

no doubt about it

There isn't hope of that and realistically you shouldn't expect it.

well ok maybe not for the edgelords

but at least the people caught in the middle

we should be able to be saved without jumping in line

Yeah, you need to be able to moderate to some extent.

Who in the Dem Party represents the middle right now?

It looks like the Dems have already cut off the middle.

candidate wise or just people side?

@devpav Ask Lago, he keeps saying they're full of sane people but never really gives names.

The last name he gave was Warner and then I showed him Warner's internet regulation paper. But he claims to be in the Democratic party foot troops and likes who he meets. And he's always felt reasonable to me.

Start with their representatives in Congress. Who are the Dem centrists?

He was clearly bothered by that Warner.

Don't ask me. Ask Lago.

I thought I was talking to TylerC.

But you do need to be able to moderate. And find a way to share parts.

You're talking with both of us. I asked the question on behalf of Tyler if you remember.

Alot of the problem, and the whole reason I argue the right needs to scale up is because the left already has.

But if you can't find a peace, it's just going to be war until everything is ground down underfoot.

the right is way behind in that respect

thats my problem with it pratel

nail on the nead with your last line

nail on the head

cant edit from this screen for some reason, not on my laptop atthe moment

Agreed, which I why I have been trying to argue for more activism and organization. You have to be able to scale or it's going to just be bullying. You also need to be able to find the peace.

I think the left already believes it's in a total war.

It does.

It's been that way for decades.

So we need to declare a reciprocal total war.

America is a balance of the left and right

neither side could do it on their own

period

You're already in it dev, what are you doing to fight it?

both would turn into authority

so we have to find that common ground

sure. But the peace terms are not good right now.

agreed

And right now it's far too balanced to the left.