idk, the lack of origina stories was a problem for DC movies...

I think it was the lack of good movies

You dont really need an origin story for batman or superman. Everyone knows that story

DC just makes bad films yeah

I really like origin stories, but DC just hasn't done good ones.

ya, but the stories change with the times.

so, you kinda do.

you don't nee dto rebooot them every other year though...

Every Batman Origin Story movie is "Criminal killed my parents and I'm rich"

bit more to it than that.

just like every Spiderman origin story movie is "Uncle Ben died because I was a cock and didnt use my radioactive spider powers". They just skipped it for the new one from what I've heard

and theyre just formulaic at this point

The spiderman PS4 game did a pretty funny nod to the sam raimi movies

I tried to watch Dr Strange for instance, then went "Oh okay, I know the 2 new things they'll show here" and left the room

At one point you're on an out of control subway train and he goes to the front and starts doing the thing from spiderman 2 where he webs up the walls and trys to hold on, but the webs all just snaps and he's like "I was so sure that would work"

wew

but yeah I think DC needs to do what Marvel was forced to do. Leave the biggest names out, work with the next level down or lower

they just need to not get caught in a formula, like Marvel also did

Shazam is actually a good move. It looks pleasant

I *might* actually watch it

marvel put in the time to build the characters

I wonder if Marvel using the superheroes that normies are less familiar with like Thor and Ironman helped them out. Like if it helped audiences get over the stigma of 'ewww nerdy superheroes'

well I mean people watched Thor for cheesecake

lets be real here

To be fair there wasn't much else going for the first movie.

but I think people enjoy at least the superificial difference of having a lesser known, more obscure character show up

MCU doesn't have the rights to my favorite guys, Magneto and Dr Doom

So I don't watch

didnt they buy Fox's shit?

or has that not gone through still?

idk, some ppl watched thor just to see how different it was...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCQug0FEvZ0

They bought Fox's entertainment stuff yeah.

All the X-men movie rights are Sony though, but they've been teaming up with them more

They should just make the X-people with characters like "Tazmanian Devil"

how were the X-Men movie rights Sony's if Fox was the distributor?

like the whole point behind buying Fox was getting X-Men and Fantastic Four (so they can stop being blown up in the comics :^) )

ya i thought spiderman was sony, xmen were fox

Oh yeah, I was wrong on that one

Also they can start putting the X-men on their merch

Like they were selling shirts of iconic comic covers in Target or whatever and removing the X-men from them

I'm genuinely disappointed that they didnt try to milk Civil War and actually do the whole thing