Message from @pratel

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2018-09-28 19:22:50 UTC  

Political control.

2018-09-28 19:23:21 UTC  

I would bet it looks like people wanting to throw out most of the constitution and other people refusing to budge.

2018-09-28 19:23:52 UTC  

The DSA's chief legislative priority is actually electoral reform, and I can bet the Dems are completely on board.

2018-09-28 19:24:02 UTC  

Stuff like, removing the electoral college.

2018-09-28 19:24:06 UTC  

And throwing out the constitution will be 'progressive' 😉

2018-09-28 19:24:18 UTC  

Stacking the legislature and court.

2018-09-28 19:24:48 UTC  

Removing the ability of states to set electoral rules and then requiring them to register more voters (like felons and illegal immigrants)

2018-09-28 19:25:03 UTC  

anyone that doesn't realise that the constitution is a work of art needs their head tested. We should all be so lucky to have anything half as good.

2018-09-28 19:25:36 UTC  

That's the usual attitude in academia right now. Defend the Constitution and get thrown out.

2018-09-28 19:25:47 UTC  

Unless you use it to argue a very specific line.

2018-09-28 19:26:47 UTC  

But Unis will send security to campus organizations putting US flags for 9/11. Or distributing copies of the US constitution and Declaration of Independence on campus--and they've been doing it for decades now.

2018-09-28 19:27:14 UTC  

It's going to be the main break, IMO. Is the US even a nation with a worthwhile history?

2018-09-28 19:27:40 UTC  

My guess is that most people here answer "yes" without reservation. But the social Justice left sees it differently and is violent in it's attack.

2018-09-28 19:28:37 UTC  

This will, of course, get a number of people very angry in response. And at some point, ANTIFA will mass acquire firearms. The Militias already have them.

2018-09-28 19:29:54 UTC  

The constant harassment and aggression against the Republican lawmakers and Republican base is going to normalize the Proud Boys and militias. At some point, they'll start showing up to defend Republicans doing normal things and the Republicans will decide it's much better to have vigilante defense than no defense at all.

2018-09-28 19:30:00 UTC  

And then things will get really ugly.

2018-09-28 19:30:31 UTC  

Honestly, all it really takes at this point for things to explode is a key lawmaker to get killed.

2018-09-28 19:30:42 UTC  

we almost had that already

2018-09-28 19:31:07 UTC  

And we got lucky the baseball shooter couldn't aim.

2018-09-28 19:31:49 UTC  

But that won't matter at close quarters.

2018-09-28 19:32:12 UTC  

There is a reason the societal elites are suddenly so in favor of gun control.

2018-09-28 19:32:30 UTC  

Control the force of arms and you control the political power.

2018-09-28 19:33:00 UTC  

Don't you think that is kind of a sticking point. The people with gun atm have them coz of the 2nd, alot of them live in a gun culture, it's second nature to alot of them. If antifa pick up guns, yeah they can fire them but theres' more to starting a war than holding a gun.

2018-09-28 19:33:18 UTC  

Exactly,

2018-09-28 19:33:25 UTC  

The right way overestimates it's chances.

2018-09-28 19:33:41 UTC  

It lacks the key elements to wage its own modern war. Like telecoms.

2018-09-28 19:33:49 UTC  

Look up "John Brown Gun Club". commies are working on overcoming their deficit in arms training.,

2018-09-28 19:33:52 UTC  

Or propaganda organizations.

2018-09-28 19:34:07 UTC  

they're still a joke but they're working on it.

2018-09-28 19:34:10 UTC  

Yeah, and that's the thing. It's way easier to learn to shoot than to build up effective organizations.

2018-09-28 19:34:31 UTC  

FWIW, I don't think the 2nd amendment would survive a civil war.

2018-09-28 19:34:39 UTC  

regardless of the victor.

2018-09-28 19:34:47 UTC  

i would say that there is a difference between 'learning to shoot' and 'learning effective small unit tactics'

2018-09-28 19:34:56 UTC  

That might be true.

2018-09-28 19:35:04 UTC  

But they do have the ability to turn up people.

2018-09-28 19:35:24 UTC  

And they do have lots of encrypted services they've created with the help of the tech industry.

2018-09-28 19:35:35 UTC  

Plus, they have the mainstream media.

2018-09-28 19:35:46 UTC  

when the right tries to get people to show up to train they tend to get infiltrated by feds who entrap them

2018-09-28 19:36:10 UTC  

that's why the right wing militia movement is dead