Message from Virtue in Safe Space 3 #lobby-unvetted


2017-05-09 19:52:57 UTC  

state science
medical research
insurance
legal aid
post office.
police
water
electricity
roads
public housing,
parks
nature preserve
culture preserve subsidiare
other stuff

2017-05-09 19:53:47 UTC  

I think the wirees and telephone and internet
cables should be public
and the companies can run the actual services..

2017-05-09 19:54:30 UTC  

also I think you should have good
state schools only for the most gifted and smartest
and if they fail they have to go to private school

2017-05-09 19:54:49 UTC  

You don't think that schools should be the other way around?

2017-05-09 19:54:54 UTC  

also the central bank should be state owned..

2017-05-09 19:55:00 UTC  

nope

2017-05-09 19:55:15 UTC  

I dont want schools that are meant to equalize things..

2017-05-09 19:55:35 UTC  

What about schools that teach the unwashed masses how to get a job, to help the nation

2017-05-09 19:56:14 UTC  

I estimate that more than 30 percent of the population
are so genetically stupid they will auto fail any education..

2017-05-09 19:56:56 UTC  

just give education to the elite.. and only if they get good grades..
and treaten the parents with expulsion so they are dependentent

2017-05-09 19:56:57 UTC  

Formal education is certainly overrated.

2017-05-09 19:57:25 UTC  

I want conservative formal authoritarian disciplinarian schools

2017-05-09 19:57:38 UTC  

molding the entire country into the party

2017-05-09 19:57:41 UTC  

I certainly wouldn't attend one.

2017-05-09 19:58:13 UTC  

you know about confusian education system?

2017-05-09 19:58:54 UTC  

Nope

2017-05-09 19:59:13 UTC  

success in state school should mean that you get elevated social rank
that you become nobility and eligable for work in the goverment
and in the beurocracy

2017-05-09 19:59:33 UTC  

every who fails state education are
the servants and lower social classes..
the voice less

2017-05-09 19:59:56 UTC  

the elite shall be the thinkers, artists,lawmen and
beurocrats..
all loyal to the party

2017-05-09 20:00:05 UTC  

I can see how that would have merit. Especially for those who can succeed in that school environment.

2017-05-09 20:00:17 UTC  

its all about meritocracy..

2017-05-09 20:00:31 UTC  

What if there is a flaw in the system somewhere. Would the elites be free to question the system?

2017-05-09 20:00:52 UTC  

If you dont get this state education
then you still have rights and you are still protected by the law

2017-05-09 20:01:13 UTC  

the thing is that this system is very good at adjusting

2017-05-09 20:01:29 UTC  

the elites questions and address the social problems all the time

2017-05-09 20:01:43 UTC  

Yes its not regid in that sense

2017-05-09 20:02:00 UTC  

What if an elite, for example, wanted to question the existence of god? Or wanted to promote degeneracy?

2017-05-09 20:03:09 UTC  

consider our own democratic system
which is so obsesses with asking normal people what they think
to get their votes
that that the entire system is drowning in nonsensical opinions
and every fucking idiot is encouraged to believe
they just as insighfull as some professor.

2017-05-09 20:03:21 UTC  

Agreed.

2017-05-09 20:03:32 UTC  

in the Chinese beurocracy there where no theological restrictions.

2017-05-09 20:03:53 UTC  

But ensuring everyone has the same ideology can lead to a bit of insular thinking

2017-05-09 20:03:58 UTC  

The chinese beuroctats questioned and debated openly
every aspect of religion and tradition.

2017-05-09 20:04:07 UTC  

Good deal

2017-05-09 20:04:35 UTC  

the one shared ideology is just a front for the political system..

2017-05-09 20:05:05 UTC  

in our current political system nothing less than a fanatical ideology
can push through the simplest reform..

2017-05-09 20:05:48 UTC  

Agreed. Lowest common denominator is what can get consensus. Or outright war.

2017-05-09 20:06:06 UTC  

More specific. The shared ideology is the education system
people will not submit to authoritive teacher-student relationships
in a democracy.

2017-05-09 20:06:31 UTC  

Is authoritative the proper method?

2017-05-09 20:06:37 UTC  

Yes.

2017-05-09 20:06:49 UTC  

like anti-student democracy.

2017-05-09 20:07:11 UTC  

I haven't read this book in a while, but it moved me at the time. http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/