Message from Virtue in Safe Space 3 #lobby-unvetted


2017-05-09 20:06:06 UTC  

More specific. The shared ideology is the education system
people will not submit to authoritive teacher-student relationships
in a democracy.

2017-05-09 20:06:31 UTC  

Is authoritative the proper method?

2017-05-09 20:06:37 UTC  

Yes.

2017-05-09 20:06:49 UTC  

like anti-student democracy.

2017-05-09 20:07:11 UTC  

I haven't read this book in a while, but it moved me at the time. http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/

2017-05-09 20:07:52 UTC  

The concept of the authoritarian follower was terrifying.

2017-05-09 20:08:39 UTC  

I read about teaching methods and the history of changes in teachers methods
and think the old disciplin oriented education sytem was the correct
one and this education we have now is based
on free upbringing and having discussions with children
to get them to understand things..

2017-05-09 20:09:16 UTC  

...sight I meant authoritarian as authoritian
not the political system..

2017-05-09 20:09:25 UTC  

Human beings have and need authority figures..

2017-05-09 20:10:04 UTC  

Yes, but questioning authority is very useful.

2017-05-09 20:10:07 UTC  

I am not saying that we should brainwash children or make everyone

2017-05-09 20:10:23 UTC  

That is a bit of modern propaganda you have been feed.

2017-05-09 20:10:35 UTC  

They did question authority

2017-05-09 20:10:46 UTC  

The individual should.

2017-05-09 20:11:05 UTC  

students and other teachers did question teatchers
in the entire victorian era.

2017-05-09 20:11:25 UTC  

But they did so within their system.
they still had authority figures..

2017-05-09 20:11:49 UTC  

Questioning authority isn't mutually exclusive with having authority.

2017-05-09 20:11:52 UTC  

the current school system has abolish the authorative figure

2017-05-09 20:11:59 UTC  

Exactly

2017-05-09 20:12:13 UTC  

I haven't been in school for quite a while.

2017-05-09 20:12:28 UTC  

you haven't?

2017-05-09 20:12:36 UTC  

I remember seeing peers spanked bare bottom in front of the whole class.

2017-05-09 20:12:52 UTC  

Teacher would keep a paddle on the wall near the door.

2017-05-09 20:13:05 UTC  

oh the old days..

2017-05-09 20:13:16 UTC  

are you that old?

2017-05-09 20:13:30 UTC  

From a rural town. So they probably were a bit resistant to change.

2017-05-09 20:13:36 UTC  

we need some of that BACK

2017-05-09 20:13:44 UTC  

And yeah, I'm probably much older than most of the people who use discord.

2017-05-09 20:14:18 UTC  

The physical punnishment is wrong.

2017-05-09 20:14:34 UTC  

But you dont actually need to get rid of the authority figure

2017-05-09 20:14:39 UTC  

It helped form my anti-authoritarian beliefs.

2017-05-09 20:14:56 UTC  

Teachers can be authority figures without resorting to violence

2017-05-09 20:15:07 UTC  

I agree. And they should.

2017-05-09 20:15:13 UTC  

I actually come from a savage private school.

2017-05-09 20:15:30 UTC  

When I got into a modern school
I was so fucking gratefull

2017-05-09 20:15:51 UTC  

and I hated my spoiled fucking peers
because they didn't appriciate it

2017-05-09 20:16:29 UTC  

My first reaction was actually that I wanted the teachers to be more authoritarian
to the other students who misbehaved

2017-05-09 20:17:03 UTC  

the problem with FREE schools.
is that the kids who are assholes
are not punnished.

2017-05-09 20:17:13 UTC  

I mostly just want to see the law applied even handedly and not selectively.

2017-05-09 20:17:28 UTC  

the problem with asshole school
is that everyone are punnished collectively all the time

2017-05-09 20:17:37 UTC  

(and for all consensual crimes to be legal)