Message from @FHX Beaver

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2020-04-03 17:21:31 UTC  

Anybody who uses natsoc unironically is just not very smart. No politician will be able to proclaim they are a national socialist even if they hold some nationalist ideas and a few socialist ideas. They will always have to rebrand it in a new way. Tucker has said that he is against a lot of the things that primarily benefit the elites in this country. He rails on h1-b visas for example. To some degree he does represent the average middle-class worker in America. Tucker does speak to the workers more broadly in America. Restricting what these elites can do, and not deferring to just muh economic freedom, muh liberty. Is a somewhat socialist idea. The idea that we have a society that is connected together that to some degree has to be maintained.

The elite class wants the h1-b visas on both the democrat and republican side. But because tucker knows that it will primarily damage the average American worker he is against these visa programs. This is only one of many examples.

Now would Tucker ever say that this has some socialistic ideas embedded in it? Well not really. He would frame it in a nationalist perspective by saying that opposing these visas is an America First policy, he wouldnt say its a socialist policy.

2020-04-03 17:21:48 UTC  

Its all about the branding, the symbolism. The ideas themselves but also the presentation of the ideas.

2020-04-03 17:42:59 UTC  

Wait, you're *just now* noticing Carlson is helicopter ballast? I thought it was fairly obvious the day he stopped making that confused basset hound face at crazy leftists and offered his own opinions.....

2020-04-03 17:44:44 UTC  

well. The ghost agent is I guess.

2020-04-03 17:45:27 UTC  

2 things can be true at the same time.
You can be a capitalist and also be nationalist. They're not mutually exclusive.

2020-04-03 17:48:47 UTC  

capitalists would say to bring in the h1-b visa immigrants. So I dont think he would be as far right on the economic axis as that statement implies but perhaps Im mistaken. I think if you asked him if he is a capitalist he would probably really get more specific then that and he would probably say well no im not a capitalist, im a American father. or something based like that bruh

2020-04-03 17:49:41 UTC  

but. that doesnt mean he doesnt believe in private property and so on. I think he would say that he believes in some economic principles but its clear that in reality they have their limits. sort of like how he handled the discussion with charlie kirk.

2020-04-03 17:55:59 UTC  

Pretty sure he supports capitalism, but acknowledges that it requires a firm hand at the wheel

2020-04-03 17:56:36 UTC  

lest the people become a tool of capitalism, rather than the other way around

2020-04-03 18:00:10 UTC  

^ - That. he believes in private property/ownership of businesses and free exchange between parties. What he has a problem with is when such exchanges starts shitting on 3rd parties and the 3rd parties have no recourse from the harm being inflicted. Tantamount to a factory dumping toxic wastes into the river that is the water supply of a town down stream. Believing in the free market does not mean freedom from consequences.

2020-04-03 18:00:55 UTC  

In order for a free market to function, there needs to be law and order in which everyone plays by the same rules. He's fundamentally against the current model of corporatism where they win, we lose.

2020-04-03 18:02:25 UTC  

exactly. the market is not a deity, its a voracious and omnivorous beast of burden that must be brought to heel, and made to service the nation and her people

2020-04-03 18:04:39 UTC  

don't believe me? translate "too big to fail" to "too nutritious to eat"

2020-04-03 18:04:58 UTC  

I'm a capitalist but disagree with the visas entirely

2020-04-03 18:05:33 UTC  

IMO the default border position should be closed

2020-04-03 18:07:38 UTC  

_5 hours ago_

2020-04-03 18:08:11 UTC  

wow a flu brings down the best country in the world

2020-04-03 18:08:13 UTC  

Not "what the fuck is an africa" levels of impermeable, mind, but the kind of thing where goods are carefully and painstakingly inspected so we can prevent the next chinese invasive insect/mold/etc. and where immigration is kept low. Tourism I think is a general good, though.

2020-04-03 18:11:11 UTC  

@faultfiction it isn't a flu to retard.

2020-04-03 18:11:15 UTC  

my house is wiping down groceries we bring in before storing them

2020-04-03 18:11:39 UTC  

Whats a flu to retard, retard?

2020-04-03 18:12:58 UTC  

how many capitalists are gonna beg for government bailout bois?

2020-04-03 18:13:23 UTC  

well that's basically all of non-progressive congress

2020-04-03 18:13:46 UTC  

since they just signed away between 2 and 4 trillion dollars that the economy will never see again

2020-04-03 18:14:19 UTC  

not including the absolute scraps you and me ***might*** get

2020-04-03 18:14:47 UTC  

you know Cruise liners were on that list?

2020-04-03 18:15:01 UTC  

as in fucking luxury god damn sailing liners?

2020-04-03 18:15:02 UTC  

bruh the fReEeEe muHArKet will provide for us

2020-04-03 18:15:13 UTC  

imagine thinking communism is any better people that support it are either dumb or evil or both

2020-04-03 18:15:20 UTC  

you know, the ones that almost exclusively hire anyone but americans and don't register for american taxes?

2020-04-03 18:15:25 UTC  

*poof*

2020-04-03 18:15:34 UTC  

that's how you make money disappear

2020-04-03 18:15:43 UTC  

into thin fucking air

2020-04-03 18:15:51 UTC  

when did Panama became the global tax haven?

2020-04-03 18:17:26 UTC  

Panama, or any pacific or carribean island where we have zero jusridiction, and yet companies based in this country put more of their revenue in than back into the economy

2020-04-03 18:18:01 UTC  

this is how you fuck up being a capitalist nation

2020-04-03 18:18:02 UTC  

well UhMuriKKKa can invade it again and take al the monies back

2020-04-03 18:18:30 UTC  

or more likely, China can seize them, claiming debt reclamation

2020-04-03 18:20:00 UTC  

how will they do that?