Message from @Markus

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2020-03-14 19:49:45 UTC  

An extreme take

2020-03-14 19:49:56 UTC  

but no less one which has the consequences of what you have stated

2020-03-14 19:53:49 UTC  

Depends how open borders is pushed tbh, it can be gradual and consensual. It's just that's the polar opposite of how it's being done now

2020-03-14 19:54:19 UTC  

Open borders is not the same as no borders imo

2020-03-14 19:54:44 UTC  

opening borders to france say, not really a problem

2020-03-14 19:54:48 UTC  

opening borders to the world

2020-03-14 19:54:52 UTC  

that a problem

2020-03-14 19:55:17 UTC  

If borders are open they only exist symbolically and geographically

2020-03-14 19:55:49 UTC  

But when they say no borders thats what they mean

2020-03-14 19:55:50 UTC  

open borders by this definition is the abolishment of borders

2020-03-14 19:56:14 UTC  

Economical and social borders yeah

2020-03-14 19:56:17 UTC  

something which exist symbolically, doesn't really exist

2020-03-14 19:56:23 UTC  

But I'm just being pedantic I guess

2020-03-14 19:56:23 UTC  

it's acted out

2020-03-14 19:58:47 UTC  

Fun times

2020-03-14 20:09:03 UTC  

... that has got to be the most asinine strategy I have ever seen

2020-03-14 20:09:09 UTC  

Why?

2020-03-14 20:09:25 UTC  

I'm unsure about it

2020-03-14 20:09:26 UTC  

It's lies.

2020-03-14 20:09:59 UTC  

The CMO is explaining herd immunities role in the epidemic and he's been quoted to make it look like infection is a strategy.

2020-03-14 20:10:17 UTC  

Even those that get by w/"mild" symptoms classified under WHO, those ppl have pneumonia. As can be seen from chest CT scans, some have severe lung dmg, reducing lung capacity by 20-30%. We have no idea if it is permanent or if it can even be healed over time.

2020-03-14 20:10:49 UTC  

They never bothered using the containment strategy and skipped right to LETS INFECT EVERYONE FOR HERD IMMUNITY

2020-03-14 20:11:37 UTC  

Oh you mean The Independent take is lies

2020-03-14 20:11:45 UTC  

Not the strategy itself

2020-03-14 20:12:23 UTC  

Yeah, herd immunity is a strategy using vaccines, which no one has, and total infection rate might never reach 60%. The whole narrative is political mud slinging.

2020-03-14 20:13:04 UTC  

So were not doing herd immunity?

2020-03-14 20:13:08 UTC  

it makes it sound that they want to deliberately infect people

2020-03-14 20:13:26 UTC  

As we have no vaccine

2020-03-14 20:14:02 UTC  

We will use herd immunity when vaccines are available, it prevents community transmission very effectively. But supplies are the biggest issue, for testing as well.

2020-03-14 20:15:50 UTC  

So what is our plan exactly? Wait for a vaccine and in the meantime do what we have been doing?

2020-03-14 20:15:55 UTC  

Herd immunity works with vaccines. We don't have it. The other assumption is that there won't be any mutation as they let the infection spread like wildfire. Nullifying any immunity built prior to a new strain

2020-03-14 20:17:07 UTC  

UK plan is funnel resources as need arises, monitoring international travel and promoting individual responsibility to quarantine with medical intervention in serious cases.

2020-03-14 20:21:51 UTC  

i got like 10 pages in

2020-03-14 20:21:55 UTC  

anything to highlight?

2020-03-14 20:24:09 UTC  

That's about where the details begin.

2020-03-14 20:24:20 UTC  

Skim forward a page or two.

2020-03-14 20:55:59 UTC  

https://imgflip.com/i/3sm7f4

I am sorry, it had to be done.

2020-03-14 21:20:34 UTC  

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