Message from @Louis

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2020-03-12 09:39:00 UTC  

Which frankly we don't. We see a more linear rise.

2020-03-12 09:40:15 UTC  

This is the same with Australia and the weather phenomena which drive its cycles of droughts and floods, the long term rise in temperature has led to more droughts and also more rainfall

2020-03-12 09:41:01 UTC  

Not even more unstable waterways and tsunamis and stuff, literal flooding

2020-03-12 09:41:33 UTC  

The Scientific American article says California should be experiencing more floods by 2035, not now, again it's because of the long term rise in temperature

2020-03-12 09:41:54 UTC  

(floodplains)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/680587502918041623/687596218645348376/SmartSelect_20200312-044137_Samsung_Internet.jpg

2020-03-12 09:42:58 UTC  

If we're talking about short term predictions a lot of factors come into place which can influence weather phenomena and temperature

2020-03-12 09:43:02 UTC  

Do you realisticly believe that not only will it rise exponentially (which we don't see) and that it will literally flood California lowlands in 15 years?

2020-03-12 09:43:28 UTC  

Short term predictions are not the problem

2020-03-12 09:43:59 UTC  

It's the long term predictions. And the Cult effect it has as if it's cast in stone and not a (prediction)

2020-03-12 09:45:22 UTC  

The article talks about how the San Francisco Bay Area will be more exposed to floods in the future, it doesn't claik that the entirety of it will be under water by 2035

2020-03-12 09:45:54 UTC  

I didn't say that, but it also didn't say "susceptible" it said will.

2020-03-12 09:46:53 UTC  

Will as in confirmed as in certain.

2020-03-12 09:47:11 UTC  

That's fearmongering.

2020-03-12 09:47:12 UTC  

It just talks about the risk of property damage such floods will cause, no one is claiming that the entirety of San Francisco will be under water, what is being claimed, however, is that a lot of properties close to the beaches of the SF Bay Area are at risk of getting damaged by floods by 2035

2020-03-12 09:47:30 UTC  

I just said I didn't say that.

2020-03-12 09:49:55 UTC  

It's not fearmongering if it's bringing up an actual legitimate concern

2020-03-12 09:50:27 UTC  

This right here is what I'm talking about, they make predictions by assuming variables instead of current data.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/680587502918041623/687598372760190986/SmartSelect_20200312-044949_Drive.jpg

2020-03-12 09:51:09 UTC  

If it was exponential we would have seen it by now.

2020-03-12 09:51:25 UTC  

So why assume in the future it will be?

2020-03-12 09:52:32 UTC  

What do you want to bet that scientific American used a trend like the red line instead of the green one.

2020-03-12 09:53:41 UTC  

It's always worse case scenario and least likely one that is published in overall findings. They want it to be there.

2020-03-12 09:53:56 UTC  

The studies which assess the sea level rise of the future are taking into account the melting ice polar sheets, whose mass lose has been exponential

2020-03-12 09:54:15 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/680587502918041623/687599328713637994/Sea_Level_Rise.png

2020-03-12 09:54:23 UTC  

That green line doesn't look exponential to me cheif

2020-03-12 09:54:40 UTC  

Literally proved my point.

2020-03-12 09:55:17 UTC  

Projected to be exponential except it wasn't for the last 60 years

2020-03-12 09:55:19 UTC  

Because that's assuming a scenario where the ice sheets only melt at a constant rate

2020-03-12 09:55:40 UTC  

As I said, it depends entirely on the mass loss of the ice sheets

2020-03-12 09:56:33 UTC  

No you are assuming it's exponential, even though there is no fact real data to support it.

2020-03-12 09:57:15 UTC  

This is fact

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/680587502918041623/687600084853981211/SmartSelect_20200312-045704_Discord.jpg

2020-03-12 09:57:28 UTC  

But the data clearly says that the projected rise is based on how the ice sheets will melt

2020-03-12 09:57:53 UTC  

This is wishful thinking. Yes wishful

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/680587502918041623/687600243692666906/SmartSelect_20200312-045735_Discord.jpg

2020-03-12 09:58:32 UTC  

But "projected". No previous fact do not support future predictions.

2020-03-12 09:59:01 UTC  

The world industrialized massively from 1950 to 2000 exponentially in fact.

2020-03-12 09:59:21 UTC  

Thus it would have done the same for the sea levels.

2020-03-12 09:59:37 UTC  

Projections are not based on the previous trends, they are based on the current trends and how they will change in the future

2020-03-12 10:01:04 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/680587502918041623/687601039486222457/SmartSelect_20200312-050055_Discord.jpg

2020-03-12 10:10:51 UTC  

I see now it's the green one again that's the real one. It's just the bottom of the green indicator.

2020-03-12 10:11:46 UTC  

But you think that people are using the green and real data for policy decisions and public information?