Message from @Giggles

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2020-03-25 14:02:10 UTC  

Redirecting funds, especially from foreign aid, to help the Nation is an America First policy, absolutely in line with Conservatism

2020-03-25 14:27:53 UTC  

Conservatism is not supposed to be some caricature. You are not stuck with communism or no government libertarianism. You can find a middle ground which has a sensible level of government to deal with any current crisis. Obviously a pandemic such as this requires the ability for states to work together at a high level, and the mobilisation of significant resources.
Ideally after the pandemic is over, the government would shrink again and give up most of its power, but we all know how that will go.

2020-03-25 14:29:28 UTC  

Coolitic once again not understanding that American Conservatism is not limited to Classical Liberalism

2020-03-25 14:46:45 UTC  

> National conservatism, a form of populist conservatism proposed by supporters of President Donald Trump that breaks with the "conservative consensus, forged by Cold War politics" of "markets and moralism".[64] **It emphasizes nationalism and social conservatism,[64] opposes immigration, and abandons laissez-faire, free-market economic policy**[65] to describe the movements in the United States supporting Donald Trump and in England supporting Brexit. A 2019 political conference featuring "public figures, journalists, scholars, and students" dubbed this variety of conservatism "National Conservatism".

2020-03-25 14:48:33 UTC  

Protip: Political terms are invariant only with respect to a few core beliefs, the specifics change according to time, place and circumstance.

2020-03-25 14:50:19 UTC  

Autistically clinging to "small government" would lead to Conservatism "principally" opposed to the border wall and supportive of legalization of same sex marriage and trans rights, which isn't how people who have self identified as "Conservatives" in the past 100 years have acted.

2020-03-25 14:51:02 UTC  

Classical Liberalism was presented as a central tenet only after the Cold War when some groups (William F. Buckley et al) capitalized on the anti communist sentiments to promote the Free Market

2020-03-25 14:52:22 UTC  

And even then it faced, and continues to face, opposition from Paleocons, Nationalists and various other Dissident Rights groups

2020-03-25 14:52:42 UTC  

There cannot be a "Conservative" ideology based purely on economic materialism

2020-03-25 14:56:33 UTC  

Most Conservatives in the US, especially in Gen Z, have far more in common with European Conservatives than Randian Objectivists/Libertarians or various flavors of Liberalism promoted by the establishment

2020-03-25 19:35:37 UTC  

The coronavirus is a K selective event

2020-03-25 19:36:12 UTC  

Those who took this more seriously from the start and have more resources to fall back on are ultimately doing better all things concerned.

2020-03-25 19:38:10 UTC  

This is an excellent time to allocate our help wisely, remembering deeds and past events.

2020-03-25 19:49:07 UTC  

@Giggles Bricklaying *is* in fact fulfilling

2020-03-25 19:49:19 UTC  

OK, well sex can also be fulfilling

2020-03-25 19:49:31 UTC  

Not over the long term

2020-03-25 19:50:14 UTC  

I know it's psych today but

2020-03-25 19:50:37 UTC  

"may"

2020-03-25 19:51:05 UTC  

*"For both men and women, taking into account prior psychological disorders, the odds of developing substance dependence increased virtually linearly with the number of sex partners"*

2020-03-25 19:51:17 UTC  

I don't care about what "may" be the case for people in general, if there's an individual who likes having multiple sex partners (assuming they're being responsible) then I don't care and we shouldn't judge them for it

2020-03-25 19:51:31 UTC  

It's "may" because this is just one study

2020-03-25 19:51:45 UTC  

"The majority of studies citing a relationship between mental health problems, including substance and alcohol use, and one's number of sex partners are correlational in nature."

2020-03-25 19:52:02 UTC  

I mean it may be that people with addictive personalities like to have sex more

2020-03-25 19:52:27 UTC  

This isn't an argument for why we should judge people for their professional decision regardless

2020-03-25 19:52:58 UTC  

No, it's an argument for why these things are bad for the individual

2020-03-25 19:53:14 UTC  

So should we look down on brewers because brewing beer "may" be bad for them?

2020-03-25 19:54:02 UTC  

I'm not saying look down on them, simply dissuaded, besides, alcohol is a double-edged sword

2020-03-25 19:55:10 UTC  

So how do we denormalize people without looking down on people or judging them badly?

2020-03-25 19:55:28 UTC  

Explaining the risks/consequences

2020-03-25 19:55:35 UTC  

That's not denormalizing, that's informing

2020-03-25 19:56:38 UTC  

Frankly you should do that with literally every line of work

2020-03-25 19:56:43 UTC  

Maybe we're using that term differently then, but when I was young everyone acted like me joining the military would be a death sentence

2020-03-25 19:57:34 UTC  

Frankly unjustifiably, but I got the sense that being in the military wasn't a normal line of work

2020-03-25 19:58:23 UTC  

OK, well I think over 1% of American males are in the military so it's statistically pretty normal at least. Do you think them making it feel abnormal was good for you?

2020-03-25 19:59:21 UTC  

No, but that's the thing; soldiers are glorified, and being one for some is something to aspire to; does anyone aspire to be a porn star?

2020-03-25 19:59:31 UTC  

idk, probably somewhere

2020-03-25 20:00:25 UTC  

What I'm meaning by normalization is like, you have a kindergarten teacher asking kids what they want to be , and one of them says sex worker