Message from @Jim
Discord ID: 687038284232523786
<:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>
cause they have no way to differentiate what they know from what they do not
Thanks for that, i needed a good laugh
laughing isn;t logical
For Science is a useful tool, but it is incapable of expressing *All That Is.*
agreed
All that is observable
Neither is faith
philsosphy, the basis of both religion AND science is though
@Jim yeah its definitely different, just understanding its memetic contributions + value in society made me alot less animalistic about it. Especially because stupid people are on a different wavelength of causality when it comes to "spiritual" topics. In many cases if you interpret even the most retarded bible thumpers arguments as a memetic arguement there is some value to it (though granted you probably heard it thousands of times before)
because the tools and ways of thinking that are embodied in philosophy have been used since man first had the thought of 'why....'
and then tried to string together ideas to make some sense of the world
@ManAnimal philosophy is the love of study, it has nothing to do with religion and religious dogma. Religion just got there first when explanations of the world proved inadequate
incorrect
> All that is observable
@notaglobe Difference betwixt *All That Is* and all that's observable is marked.
philosophy has very distinct subtopics, methods and syntax
in fact, you can't even GRASP science without philosophy
There is no such thing as certainty in the world people just fill in that gap with God because it's the easy thing to do
because philosophy breaks down the essential domains which science deals with as well as how we as humans use that science
But where is God in any of this? He can fuck off and be replaced by randomness and it still suffice for an explanation
Metaphysics: "What is the nature of the universe?" Epistmology: "What is the nature of human knowledge?"
Ethics: "What is the nature of good and evil from the persepective of man?"
Speaking of fucking the exhaust pipe https://youtu.be/S_Y0dLTbISw
if you can't seperate 'the universe' from 'man's perceptions of the universe'
how they hell can you do science?
post-modernism time
<:BIGBRAIN:501101491428392991>
pretty much
best to study those philosophers that also made heavy contributions to mathematics and science
"oh no, Jim doesn't think the all powerful space man with power to control everything exist! Shame him." or alternatively "bro, you're questioning God? What's wrong with you? Get in line."
Leibneix, Debrule, Newton, etc
why are you being so emotional jim?
being defensive is not scientific
i jumped in halfway so im slightly confused, is manimal tryin to convince jim to accept jesus?
No, you're just not convincing
nope.
who said i was trying to convince anyone of everything dude?
everything i have said can be found in "THey History of Myth & Science"
Well you are very adamant that there is a god
just goin off of jims reaction