Message from @Tykiller

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2018-11-02 05:36:29 UTC  

They don't but tv was claiming its impossible to be too selfish

2018-11-02 05:36:39 UTC  

```All acts of selfishness don't have to be done to any extreme degree though```
And too much selflessness is worse than beeing selfish as Angela M. has shown us....

2018-11-02 05:36:43 UTC  

Precisely @Tykiller

2018-11-02 05:37:14 UTC  

I'd argue it completely depends on the context

2018-11-02 05:37:19 UTC  

But usually, yeah, I'd probably agree with that

2018-11-02 05:37:40 UTC  

It can be seen as selfish to stand up for yourself, and selfless to roll over and give way to progressive ideas

2018-11-02 05:38:00 UTC  

And I'm way more for the former than the latter

2018-11-02 05:38:12 UTC  

That is the exact context where i was trying to get someone to be more selfish

2018-11-02 05:38:19 UTC  

like i said, they didn't take my advice, which is a shame

2018-11-02 05:38:57 UTC  

too much selflessness was the reason for my mental breakdown four years ago 😅

2018-11-02 05:39:26 UTC  

to me I see any actions or thoughts of selfishness as extreme

2018-11-02 05:39:42 UTC  

I'd also argue that Angela M can be viewed in both senses. I imagine a ton of people see her actions as selfless, some see it as causing harm, and others promoting good

2018-11-02 05:39:58 UTC  

so judging the difference for selfish and selfless are way too blurred

2018-11-02 05:40:03 UTC  

But I also imagine there's a shitton of people who think she's a selfish thot and she isn't really doing any of her BS for the betterment of anyone

2018-11-02 05:40:04 UTC  

@AHeroQuest I have a friend going through that now. I keep telling him he has to think of himself and not others

2018-11-02 05:40:45 UTC  

^

2018-11-02 05:40:55 UTC  

At least not the benefit of anyone she actually represents, or should be representing

2018-11-02 05:41:16 UTC  

I had to detach myself from everyone to finally pull my soul together again @Murbay

2018-11-02 05:41:22 UTC  

```I'd also argue that Angela M can be viewed in both senses. I imagine a ton of people see her actions as selfless, some see it as causing harm, and others promoting good```
You can argue its selfish as she wants to stay in power and thus beeing selfless about the people she should protect....

2018-11-02 05:41:40 UTC  

I hope your friend gets better soon. It's a horrible place to be in

2018-11-02 05:41:56 UTC  

Agreed Stefan, see my comment right after the one you quoted

2018-11-02 05:42:20 UTC  

Matt easton's Favorite Word: Context!

2018-11-02 05:42:24 UTC  

It all depends on the Context

2018-11-02 05:42:34 UTC  

@AHeroQuest Yeah, he'll be fine or I'll kick his ass 😀

2018-11-02 05:44:56 UTC  

As for Angela M, in part her hands were tied. She didn't listen to the people and she's kind of put herself in that position

2018-11-02 05:45:35 UTC  

If it's not the context we have to worry about, now it will be the perspective

2018-11-02 05:45:38 UTC  

I don't believe her hands were as tied near the beginning of this whole mess years ago

2018-11-02 05:45:44 UTC  

She has dug her own hole

2018-11-02 05:45:46 UTC  

repeatedly

2018-11-02 05:46:01 UTC  

Sure, some may have been situational and completely out of her control

2018-11-02 05:46:15 UTC  

But I'd argue more often than not she did it to herself

2018-11-02 05:46:25 UTC  

She didn't stand up to the EU. Had she done, the outcome may have still been the same but she would have been seen in a better light

2018-11-02 05:47:19 UTC  

I'm not sure I'd boil that down to her only mistake, but even if it was, it really only takes one mistake to fuck up your reputation forever.

2018-11-02 05:47:24 UTC  

And now she has to find the funds to fill the gap we will leave in March

2018-11-02 05:48:06 UTC  

what agreement will Germany pull out of?

2018-11-02 05:48:34 UTC  

True, she made other mistakes too but she was seen as a strong leader for the most part and was often forgiven for those mistakes

2018-11-02 05:49:46 UTC  

@AHeroQuest Germany has to pay the deficit the UK leave behind. Now that really will be a test for them. It's one of the many reasons we voted to leave the EU

2018-11-02 05:50:06 UTC  

For the most part, i like stossel.

2018-11-02 05:50:13 UTC  

I don't like his resistance to net neutrality

2018-11-02 05:50:16 UTC  

A dude repping Libertarianism on TV