alot of that has to do with the insitance such values are 'not required'

prove it

There are *necessarily* elements, for sure.

i SAW them work

i can't see it working as you say

*As have I.*

Look, what was *isn't*.

during wHAT adversity?

I can't fucking force it.

the great depression?

WWII?

no

I want to, but I can't alright.

Nor you, MA.

Personality isn't a consistent variable like Lau says some things stay the same some are variable and as I say to what is most productive and works in experience

my grandparents came through all of these

Yeah, I got that.

and it was the things i am talking about which ENABLED this

I'm your age, MA.

yes, you way CAN work

Don't forget it.

It can work.

Par is that people are different to themsome and don't fit the mould anymore

my grandparents were in there 70 when i was born

sorry, doesn't matter here

Yes, but it's the modern day.

Tradition does traditionally work

yes, and i SAW exactly what you suggest FAIL miserably

The modern day is full of awe, wonder, and bullshit of it's own.

Do it with a modern gal *now*.

the moment you introduce adversity

Oh, wait...

You're a solo flier too.

it is the 'hippie perspective' which declares, "But it is the MODERN DAY .. and what my parents did is NOT me"

> Par is that people are different to themsome and don't fit the mould anymore
@Samaritan™ what the fuck

conservatives know better

Do you have a gal, MA?

With the loosening of the strict social code there are now a lot more radically divergent personalities than before being liberal with personality basically

Do you have children?

Tradition works somehat definitionally

These are questions you answered already, MA.