we can execute Luci too

Quit and go to a different corporation if you don't like it

we have decent labour laws

Nobody does

Hmmm maybe they should

instead of relying on the force of unions

Or, have unions, and fuck the company up if they misbehave

@Lucienne d'Anwyl When your former employer badmouths you out of spite to your next potential employer?

Besides being money grubbing dicks

Weird how personal responsibility works like that

and yeah hr is for the employer here

Unions are also known for being violent

they dont help the workers at all

Towards scabs and and anti union workers

Yeah how is my local grocery bagger's union benefiting from their dues

Just a vestigial organ at this point that anyone who signs up for the job MUST pay into

execute Union leaders?

And so is car insurance

???

But its there when you do need it

execute insurance agents?

You can just unionize if you need to

Car insurance isn't there for you btw

Just because it isn't functional 100% of the time

Unions do not need to continuously exist

@Louis Carlos Fer Unions are necessary. Because in a conflict between your average employee and your average employer, the employer has vastly bigger and more costly legal resources to draw aid from that the employee does not.

So it opens up for employers to essentially bully employees into submission, even when the employer is in the wrong/has violated the labour code.

It's there for if you hit someone

unionize executioners?

So you can pay their bills

Not the other way around

@Seven Proxies thus they can unionize when problems arise

Rather than eternally pay into the system

Unions are definitely a necessary concept, they are not needed to continuously exist forever

Organize a non paying group lol

Anyone against unions is basically saying they 100% trust a corporation to look out for their interests in an argument against the corporation, ok then, let me know how well that works out for you, haha.

Ok communist

Nice strawman

Without unions the employer can always go: "Oh you think I violated the labour code or your rights? Well I suppose you can just sue me in civil court then. I'll bring my team of expensive ivy league lawyers to defend me.

What's that? You can't even afford a lawyer? Well that's too bad, cupcake. I guess I can just continue stampeding over your rights and protections unimpeded then since you won't be able to afford a trial?" 😛

Anyone who is for unions is basically saying they are 100% in favor of workers owning the means of production

See how that's stupid?

don't mind luci, she's retarded