Message from @alexthepanda7

Discord ID: 526952276611301383


2018-12-25 02:32:41 UTC  

You can't make accusations like that if you can't actually show any evidence, dude

2018-12-25 02:33:01 UTC  

Pretty sure he's trolling

2018-12-25 02:33:15 UTC  

Nah, he's been saying this on the server for days

2018-12-25 02:33:39 UTC  

Nah Sargon has been pretty consistent about free speech

2018-12-25 02:33:45 UTC  

Ben Shapiro on the other hand...

2018-12-25 02:33:55 UTC  

Ben is a weird guy

2018-12-25 02:34:03 UTC  

He's a libertarian but he's pro intervention

2018-12-25 02:34:45 UTC  

Pro intervention when said intervention tips the balance of power toward Israel

2018-12-25 02:35:38 UTC  

I don't even think he's really Libertarian tbh
Seems like the controlled opp type

2018-12-25 02:35:42 UTC  

His personal views seem to clash with his political stance

2018-12-25 02:36:09 UTC  

Or maybe I should watch his show more

2018-12-25 02:37:18 UTC  

Does he want the govenrment out of marriage or does he want gay marriage gone?

2018-12-25 02:37:58 UTC  

I was a fan until he defended James Gunn but refused to defend Rosseane

2018-12-25 02:38:06 UTC  

He said he wanted the government out of marriage

2018-12-25 02:38:27 UTC  

I was a fan until I discovered he was lying about the trans stuff

2018-12-25 02:38:45 UTC  

Lying through omission atleast

2018-12-25 02:39:17 UTC  

When was that?

2018-12-25 02:39:38 UTC  

I can understand the Roseanne thing, since what she said wasnt a clear joke unlike James gunn

2018-12-25 02:39:49 UTC  

I don't like it, but I can understand it

2018-12-25 02:40:09 UTC  

@alexthepanda7 Almost every single point he makes on trans suicide is incorrect

2018-12-25 02:40:13 UTC  

It seemed like a clear joke to me, but that's the problem with trying to parse that out

2018-12-25 02:40:44 UTC  

40% of suicide attempts aren't due to dysphoria, the same study concluded that it was due to discrimination

2018-12-25 02:41:07 UTC  

Lemme get the data one sec

2018-12-25 02:41:16 UTC  

Oh, I see

2018-12-25 02:42:21 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/526952816129081344/1_SimSz6k6_44ZzMfcPkrQ0Q.png

2018-12-25 02:42:35 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/526952874840817691/1_-enjSeqMVq0ofPkY-9fMXw.png

2018-12-25 02:42:56 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/526952963193962496/1_rRTNPAzYk_dbnVIAkPN4XA.png

2018-12-25 02:43:04 UTC  

And here's a study that concludes that trans suicide rates go down in supporting environments
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

2018-12-25 02:43:38 UTC  

I see.

2018-12-25 02:44:35 UTC  

BEN SHAPIRO DESTROYED WITH FACTS AND LOGIC

2018-12-25 02:44:45 UTC  

Lol

2018-12-25 02:48:51 UTC  

That's what happens when suicide and gender dysphoria are romanticized in the culture innit?

2018-12-25 02:49:56 UTC  

Or perhaps the claim that others are responsible for ones feelings

2018-12-25 02:50:09 UTC  

I don't think that's it

2018-12-25 02:51:11 UTC  

I think the study's hypothesis is more plausible. Even though trans people are continuously promoted, in guessing it hasn't changed the minds of people

2018-12-25 02:51:54 UTC  

Tbf, even now there are gay and trans kids being kicked out

2018-12-25 02:52:18 UTC  

That people discriminate against transsexuals? Of course they do

2018-12-25 02:52:22 UTC  

But you're also right, since suicide rates are going up all around

2018-12-25 02:52:44 UTC  

But trans suicide attempts are way higher

2018-12-25 02:52:53 UTC  

So that alone wouldn't explain

2018-12-25 02:52:55 UTC  

I wouldn't want to associate with them personally either, unless it was someone I deeply cared for