Message from @Gilgamesh

Discord ID: 528479806061281292


2018-12-29 07:48:51 UTC  

plainly obvious

2018-12-29 07:48:51 UTC  

Marx wanted everyone to own everything

2018-12-29 07:48:53 UTC  

Aka

2018-12-29 07:48:57 UTC  

no

2018-12-29 07:48:57 UTC  

If I didn't do shit

2018-12-29 07:49:02 UTC  

i disagree but we didn't know marx

2018-12-29 07:49:06 UTC  

if we're going by his quote

2018-12-29 07:49:18 UTC  

he literally wanted more important people to make more "resources" or "credits"

2018-12-29 07:49:21 UTC  

What does he mean by need

2018-12-29 07:49:27 UTC  

Need as in physical?

2018-12-29 07:49:33 UTC  

okay

2018-12-29 07:49:36 UTC  

We all need roughly the same stuff?

2018-12-29 07:49:39 UTC  

Like food

2018-12-29 07:49:42 UTC  

so someone who does manual labor gets his need

2018-12-29 07:49:46 UTC  

Yes

2018-12-29 07:49:48 UTC  

someone who is a doctor gets his need

2018-12-29 07:49:51 UTC  

Yes

2018-12-29 07:49:52 UTC  

Lemme try to make a comparison. In commie land a dude that's 6'4" and ripped would get more food than someone that is 5'2" and skinny. That is a difference in resource but not in class. They are both functioning in proportion to their needs and are coming out of that exchange in equal footing.

2018-12-29 07:49:58 UTC  

What is the "need"

2018-12-29 07:50:03 UTC  

They are functioning at the same proportional rate

2018-12-29 07:50:04 UTC  

but why would he say "ability" if it was the same anyway regardless of ability

2018-12-29 07:50:11 UTC  

And neither have more power than the other

2018-12-29 07:50:32 UTC  

Define "need" please

2018-12-29 07:50:40 UTC  

Because I can live on welfare

2018-12-29 07:50:41 UTC  

that's what we're arguing about Rouqen

2018-12-29 07:50:52 UTC  

I already said my point

2018-12-29 07:50:52 UTC  

But I want to be able to live lavishly

2018-12-29 07:51:01 UTC  

What is my need then

2018-12-29 07:51:03 UTC  

My want

2018-12-29 07:51:10 UTC  

Or my physical need

2018-12-29 07:51:15 UTC  

"according to his ability"

2018-12-29 07:51:15 UTC  

You don't get "wants"

2018-12-29 07:51:18 UTC  

Not in communism

2018-12-29 07:51:21 UTC  

Exactly

2018-12-29 07:51:25 UTC  

if it's both "according to his ability" and "according to his need"

2018-12-29 07:51:35 UTC  

it means if you do better, more important tasks, you get more

2018-12-29 07:51:36 UTC  

but

2018-12-29 07:51:39 UTC  

you at least get your need

2018-12-29 07:51:44 UTC  

obviously to me anyway

2018-12-29 07:51:56 UTC  

NO IT DOESN"T. It's FROM each according to his ability and TO each according to his need

2018-12-29 07:51:59 UTC  

no