Message from @Gilgamesh

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2019-01-31 06:14:28 UTC  

@Termer and so since it hurts someone who didn't deserve it necessarily it would be wrong

2019-01-31 06:14:40 UTC  

eugenics, killing a few people for the benefits of millions.
evil ? benevolent ?

2019-01-31 06:14:52 UTC  

@Termer If the person you stole from stole from others it is up to the bigger picture anyway

2019-01-31 06:14:56 UTC  

...ya, see how little this makes sesne? That's why I don't believe in evil...lol

2019-01-31 06:14:57 UTC  

True.

2019-01-31 06:15:12 UTC  

@Paradox explain

2019-01-31 06:15:14 UTC  

got the new humble ps4 bundle... still buying a lot of my games this way https://www.humblebundle.com/games/indie-playstation-bundle-2019

2019-01-31 06:15:17 UTC  

Evil is hard to define universally.

2019-01-31 06:15:26 UTC  

It's easy to do on a smaller scale.

2019-01-31 06:15:32 UTC  

Because people agree on morality.

2019-01-31 06:15:34 UTC  

I agree

2019-01-31 06:15:38 UTC  

No, people do not.

2019-01-31 06:15:46 UTC  

Eugenics is a myth. There is only dysgenics.

2019-01-31 06:15:47 UTC  

Small scale is easier

2019-01-31 06:15:52 UTC  

I mean in smaller settings, people tend to agree.

2019-01-31 06:16:01 UTC  

Even a person doesn't necessarily.

2019-01-31 06:16:35 UTC  

I'd argue that it is illogical to use "the ends justify the means" Because if anyone found out, your end goal just got trumped by their knowledge

2019-01-31 06:16:42 UTC  

However

2019-01-31 06:17:04 UTC  

@Gilgamesh, euthanasia, helping people to die. Evil or not ?

2019-01-31 06:17:09 UTC  

I did talk to a friend last week and there are only two logical routes to take in foreign affairs

2019-01-31 06:17:29 UTC  

1. Conquer the world and make them do right. 2. Isolate yourself and counter opposition

2019-01-31 06:18:04 UTC  

a route implies a destination or goal.

2019-01-31 06:18:08 UTC  

@Ranko we also talked about euthanasia. If someone is terminally ill or in constant pain and they want to die, let them take their life or ask for it

2019-01-31 06:18:09 UTC  

your "logical" rhetoric only works as long as there is a binary choice, but crumbles between two bad choices

2019-01-31 06:18:22 UTC  

@Ranko explain

2019-01-31 06:18:48 UTC  

take the train meme thought experiment

2019-01-31 06:18:56 UTC  

and try to apply your "logic"

2019-01-31 06:19:02 UTC  

find the good solution

2019-01-31 06:19:14 UTC  

Capitalism is eugenics. Statism is dysgenics.

2019-01-31 06:19:25 UTC  

train meme?

2019-01-31 06:19:26 UTC  

@Ranko can you explain more clearly please

2019-01-31 06:19:38 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/540415849199304704/09-trolley.png

2019-01-31 06:19:40 UTC  

this

2019-01-31 06:19:48 UTC  

And?

2019-01-31 06:19:50 UTC  

I call that a fallacy

2019-01-31 06:19:57 UTC  

i would make the cart do a sick drift and take out everyone

2019-01-31 06:20:18 UTC  
2019-01-31 06:20:18 UTC  

It's designed to impose fear of making a choice

2019-01-31 06:20:31 UTC  

What's the goal?

2019-01-31 06:20:38 UTC  

go left hit that reverse then go right 😃

2019-01-31 06:20:46 UTC  

you can't deny that there are times where there is no such things as evil or good, and that no amount of "logic" will make everyone agree