I believe in universal morality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4B_jDp0ffI

Because I believe logic is tied to morality

Since logic is universal, so too is morality

In what way is it tied to logic?

Logic dictates what is right and wrong, because right and wrong is what is best for an individual and everyone

Goodness is what allows us to work together and thrive in peace

Ergo they are interwoven

But what if the caliph consents?

@halfthink ? Please elaborate

It's only the Muslim man's consent that counts.

Anyway compassion is logical because you help others and they help you, or others help you. And we raise each other up through that teamwork

Makes sense.

Evil is inherently illogical because you do things that are only about self interest and madness or that which is merely destructive and doesn't help anyone

Well, sometimes it'd arguably help you

@Termer explain

by that definition, something really bad but with good and genuine intent can't be evil ?

Whether or not rape and pedophilia are illegal depends on whether or not the rapist is a minority.

@Ranko no, because intent is a guess and not necessarily logical

Well, for instance, stealing someone's property might benefit you, while hurting the person you stole from.

@Termer and so since it hurts someone who didn't deserve it necessarily it would be wrong

eugenics, killing a few people for the benefits of millions.
evil ? benevolent ?

@Termer If the person you stole from stole from others it is up to the bigger picture anyway

...ya, see how little this makes sesne? That's why I don't believe in evil...lol

True.

@Paradox explain

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Evil is hard to define universally.

It's easy to do on a smaller scale.

Because people agree on morality.

I agree

No, people do not.

Eugenics is a myth. There is only dysgenics.

Small scale is easier

I mean in smaller settings, people tend to agree.

Even a person doesn't necessarily.

I'd argue that it is illogical to use "the ends justify the means" Because if anyone found out, your end goal just got trumped by their knowledge

However

@Gilgamesh, euthanasia, helping people to die. Evil or not ?

I did talk to a friend last week and there are only two logical routes to take in foreign affairs