Message from @Ranko

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2019-02-02 22:38:17 UTC  

in the end it's about whatever laws are there on where the company operates

2019-02-02 22:38:18 UTC  

which is what Steam is doing

2019-02-02 22:38:20 UTC  

EP: Please tell the left that

2019-02-02 22:38:26 UTC  

again, conflating drawings and human beings

2019-02-02 22:38:43 UTC  

drawings that sexualize children wouldn't be allowed in my store

2019-02-02 22:38:44 UTC  

get mad at US obscenity laws first, with Valve second

2019-02-02 22:38:53 UTC  

So I can understand why Steam wouldn't want it either

2019-02-02 22:39:08 UTC  

can't blame a company for not wanting to go into a legal gray area for a game that's bound to make them a few hundred dollars

2019-02-02 22:39:17 UTC  

if devs want to make loli porn games, they can create their own distribution method

2019-02-02 22:39:23 UTC  

no they can't

2019-02-02 22:39:30 UTC  

sure, that's not what i'm arguing

2019-02-02 22:39:39 UTC  

they can sell their games directly from their own website

2019-02-02 22:39:42 UTC  

nobody is gonna accept your money for loli porn games

2019-02-02 22:39:48 UTC  

there's a difference between a private platform getting rid of some sort of content and it being illegal

2019-02-02 22:39:54 UTC  

and you tell people to send you money via snail mail?

2019-02-02 22:40:06 UTC  

no payment processor deals with loli porn

2019-02-02 22:40:11 UTC  

and they shouldn't

2019-02-02 22:40:14 UTC  

your only option is japanese sites

2019-02-02 22:40:37 UTC  

and they make steam's %30 share look like chump change

2019-02-02 22:41:27 UTC  

What I'm saying is that Steam should be allowed to say "this type of content is inappropriate for our business"

2019-02-02 22:41:38 UTC  

i agree

2019-02-02 22:41:48 UTC  

I'm not saying the govt should get involved

2019-02-02 22:42:00 UTC  

then we're on the same page

2019-02-02 22:42:08 UTC  

at least on the outcome

2019-02-02 22:42:11 UTC  

not the reasoning

2019-02-02 22:42:26 UTC  

what I meant by being "banned" is banned for sale on Steam by Valve

2019-02-02 22:42:34 UTC  

sorry if my context wasn't clear

2019-02-02 22:46:11 UTC  

google play is banning cleavage and bikinis tho

2019-02-02 22:46:18 UTC  

Steam regulates themselves before the government decides to do it for them

2019-02-02 22:46:29 UTC  

looks like content review policy was written by a devout muslim

2019-02-02 22:47:03 UTC  

defining loli is a hard task by itself too

2019-02-02 22:47:47 UTC  

it would be a drawing of underage girl right

2019-02-02 22:47:55 UTC  

it's actually pretty simple, imagine a jury comprised of soccer moms, if they would define it as child porn you are better staying clear off that shit

2019-02-02 22:48:02 UTC  

One way that a lot of loli artists get around it is that they say that the girl is actually 100+ years old, but has the body of a child

2019-02-02 22:48:18 UTC  

usa law defines it as not protected by free speech

2019-02-02 22:48:36 UTC  

defines what?

2019-02-02 22:48:50 UTC  

is it about appearance, about age in the lore, how do you take art style into account, is it using a mature looking character from the same universe as a reference, would a mature looking body but with a low age in the lore be loli ? so on and so forth

2019-02-02 22:48:55 UTC  

obscenity laws define child porn as not protected speech

2019-02-02 22:49:05 UTC  

its not even obscenity laws

2019-02-02 22:49:07 UTC  

it falls under cp