The onus is on you to pay it, nobody gives a fuck how

@Paradox It is a system designed to hide from the citizen the true amount of the tax. It is removed from their check before they ever see it. Ross Perot suggested he could destroy the entire system if the citizen was required to enter a bank, recieve their full salary then walk from window to window paying the various gov't agencies who deduct taxes from the check. Merely seeing how much the gov't takes each week would be enough to cause violent outrage. I think he was correct.

What kind of paycheck are you getting that doesn't list deductions?

@mishona depends on situation

The principle lies on your labor belonging to you, else you are a slave (as I already mentioned, it's either theft or you are a slave). For the income tax. However, the sales tax is on the product. There is a distinction.

Sometimes they do garnish

But you are right it's mainly a choice

@mishona They are required by law to deduct a particular percentage. You may adjust that amount by claiming exemptions. But they will still withhold Social Security and Medicare taxes even if you claim sufficient exemptions to eliminate your State or Federal withholding amounts.

Yeah, and I see those deductions

on my paystub

It's not being obfuscated

@mishona they are clones debating each other.

@mishona yes. But many people don't look at them and think only in terms of their net pay since that is the portion the get to keep.

Let them clone war it out.

No real reasoning here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVJphxdawsA

Flunitrazepam in her drink is generally considered poor form.

I'll give you a prime example. Last year each member of our team received $1000 bonus at years end. But when the checks came the net was only about $600. You won't believe how many people I saw that was disappointed and expecting the full $1000.

rofl

did u just mention yourself?

@4AM_critter 🐉 save yourself the mental pain and say fuck other people and changeing them.

Most people are assholes and are cocky they don't learn anything. They already know all.

well....here I actually didn't believe you were my clone, now I am considering I may be insane.

@Paradox Don't you mean that I mentioned one of ourselves.

Lmao

I told u @Paradox

Shit we are in some weird internet dimension

@Graylan | gray00 I don't remember you telling me anything.

Bahaha

You ignored everything I said clone

Sorry clone 2

@Paradox BTW, do you not have an issue with a drug addict who cannot feed himself or his children relying upon you and your fellow citizens to work and earn to provide for him and his?

@Paradox your name is quite fitting.

Not that being a clone is bad

Clone rights and all

No. I do take an issue with the government forcing it, though 😛

But sales tax isn't force, income tax is.

See?

I disagree. I pay both only under threat of the law.

And that threat is backed by force.

Clones can we come to compromise that even though sales tax is taken and if not paid the debt is paid through imprisonment.