Message from @Σ5

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2019-12-29 10:49:04 UTC  

if it was an advantage then those animals would have thrived over the previous ones right?

2019-12-29 10:49:17 UTC  

because we don't have all fossils and not all lifeforms get fossilised

2019-12-29 10:49:20 UTC  

that's what defines it as an advantage as per "natural selection"

2019-12-29 10:49:38 UTC  

why would a small change impact how something gets fossilized??!?!

2019-12-29 10:49:56 UTC  

esp since we have completely different animals on either side that got fossilized

2019-12-29 10:50:05 UTC  

I didn't mention the small change being relevant to how.it gets fossilised

2019-12-29 10:50:31 UTC  

but if it's a gradual change over long periods of time then no one organism should exist in greater numbers than another

2019-12-29 10:50:44 UTC  

so statistically we should see the same in the fossil record

2019-12-29 10:51:33 UTC  

I don't understand what you are arguing

2019-12-29 10:52:07 UTC  

why do we find distinct organisms?

2019-12-29 10:52:15 UTC  

how distinct

2019-12-29 10:52:27 UTC  

turtles look like turtles

2019-12-29 10:52:33 UTC  

And?

2019-12-29 10:52:57 UTC  

why do we only find turtles and not all the modified turtles leading up to and past those turtles

2019-12-29 10:53:02 UTC  

Are you arguing that there should only be one living species at a time?

2019-12-29 10:53:37 UTC  

no but if a gradual change is improving an organism we should find evidence of each change because it obviously gave the organism an advantage

2019-12-29 10:53:43 UTC  

ergo a continuum in the fossil record

2019-12-29 10:54:00 UTC  

we do

2019-12-29 10:54:06 UTC  

we don't

2019-12-29 10:54:08 UTC  

stop lying

2019-12-29 10:54:11 UTC  

how so

2019-12-29 10:54:17 UTC  

I'm not

2019-12-29 10:54:34 UTC  

show me the gradual continuum that lead up to and past the turtle in the fossil record

2019-12-29 10:54:45 UTC  

Ok

2019-12-29 10:55:33 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484515915069784085/660798054924025866/turtles-stem-and-crown-cladogram-Tet-Zoo-600-px-tiny-Aug-2017-Darren-Naish-Tetrapod-Zoology.jpg

2019-12-29 10:55:37 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484515915069784085/660798074339328014/Evolution-of-the-Turtle-Shell-and-Its-Associated-Respiratory-and-Locomotory-Constraints.png

2019-12-29 11:04:58 UTC  

LMAO

2019-12-29 11:05:06 UTC  

First, these are drawings

2019-12-29 11:05:21 UTC  

second, you don't understand the term "continuum"

2019-12-29 11:05:40 UTC  

I want to see actual fossils

2019-12-29 11:07:49 UTC  

that show say a lizard turning into a turtle.

2019-12-29 11:07:57 UTC  

but only after you figure out what continuum means

2019-12-29 11:08:15 UTC  

an analogy: photographs everyday of the same person from birth to death

2019-12-29 11:08:20 UTC  

thanks

2019-12-29 11:08:45 UTC  

a single individual dosnt go thru evolution

2019-12-29 11:09:11 UTC  

doesn't matter. if a change was an "advantage" then we should have millions of them

2019-12-29 11:09:13 UTC  

at each step

2019-12-29 11:09:20 UTC  

otherwise it wasn't an advantage

2019-12-29 11:09:34 UTC  

that's how natural selection supposedly works

2019-12-29 11:09:35 UTC  

that assumes lots of individuals are fossilised

2019-12-29 11:09:46 UTC  

You don't understand how rare fossilization is