Message from @Drewski4343

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2019-12-21 15:50:19 UTC  

basically imagine shooting a canonball farther and farther until at some point it doesn't hit land but basically keeps missing Earth

2019-12-21 15:50:29 UTC  

so it's basically in constant freefall

2019-12-21 15:50:46 UTC  

if that were true, shouldn't its velocity be constantly increasing?

2019-12-21 15:51:14 UTC  

esp with almost no friction since it's outside of the atmosphere

2019-12-21 15:53:20 UTC  

just occurred to me the other day....

2019-12-21 16:15:00 UTC  

No because the center of gravity is changing.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/657979344211279889/image0.jpg

2019-12-21 16:15:13 UTC  

It's velocity DOES constantly increase. But it's relative speed remains the same because it's constantly changing velocity is always at right angles to the center of mass it's orbiting.

2019-12-21 16:16:13 UTC  

It’s velocity does not constantly increase, I’m confused on what you’re trying to say, drewski

2019-12-21 16:16:44 UTC  

An orbiting object has a constantly changing velocity.

2019-12-21 16:16:55 UTC  

Because it's constantly changing directions

2019-12-21 16:17:24 UTC  

partially correct
the (angular) speed stays the same, but the direction changes

2019-12-21 16:18:00 UTC  

velocity is a vector, speed is a scalar

2019-12-21 16:18:21 UTC  

speed stays the same

2019-12-21 16:18:30 UTC  

velocity changes

2019-12-21 16:19:46 UTC  

Yes but velocity doesn’t increase, it just changes

2019-12-21 16:20:06 UTC  

V is speed in a direction. V can change without speed changing.

2019-12-21 16:20:22 UTC  

thats what i said

2019-12-21 16:23:25 UTC  

partially correct
the (angular) velocity stays the same, but the direction changes
To: partially correct
the (angular) speed stays the same, but the direction changes

2019-12-21 16:23:44 UTC  

@marten.aap2.0 is what you originally said

2019-12-21 16:24:07 UTC  

Ok but I was talking to drewski

2019-12-21 16:24:10 UTC  

I might have worded my original statement poorly. The velocity is constantly *changing* not constantly increasing. It can continue to accelerate while maintaining the same speed .

2019-12-21 16:24:11 UTC  

you cant correct someone then change what you said after being corrected

2019-12-21 16:24:15 UTC  

Sorry about that

2019-12-21 16:24:38 UTC  

But I wasn’t wrong, Chad?

2019-12-21 16:25:04 UTC  

marten

2019-12-21 16:25:12 UTC  

I’m so confused

2019-12-21 16:25:18 UTC  

Oh okay

2019-12-21 16:25:24 UTC  

Now I understand, the gear dude

2019-12-21 16:25:38 UTC  

Sorry, I’m slow sometimes

2019-12-21 16:25:54 UTC  

marten tried to correct someone but made a mistake, then went and changed wht he said

2019-12-21 16:26:21 UTC  

I'm still not sure why the magnitude of the velocity would not constantly increase. if i use the cannonball thought experiment.

2019-12-21 16:26:47 UTC  

mistakes are no problem but when changing what yo said after being replied to is no ok

2019-12-21 16:26:59 UTC  

assume no atmosphere, the cannonballs velocity (magnitude) would constantly increase until it hits the ground

2019-12-21 16:27:47 UTC  

need to think about it more

2019-12-21 16:27:50 UTC  

But where is the ground?

2019-12-21 16:27:58 UTC  

it essentially keeps missing it

2019-12-21 16:28:02 UTC  

That is the caveat

2019-12-21 16:28:07 UTC  

but it's velocity is still increasing

2019-12-21 16:28:10 UTC  

so it should not stop

2019-12-21 16:28:13 UTC  

No

2019-12-21 16:28:14 UTC  

there is nothing to stop it