@chad46

lets do both

hang on

answer that question

is it consistent?

why

hang on

is it consistent?

it's a yes or no question

how would i know

do you know

if you don't know then neither you nor I can prove anything

and everything is pointless

that doesnt follow

why not?

does 2+2 = 4?

yes

it is consistent

not relevant

2 plus 2 is and will always be 4

hang on

will the sun rise in the east and set in the west?

ok, tell me this did the universal laws change to accomadate the big bang?

@Amthyric doesn't matter what speed something falls that has nothing to do with proving we are spinning moving or in a vacuum or in space or spherical. So please make an argument that is your own and not someone elses unproven theory. What can yo point to that is here in this atmosphere that would point to a spinning water ball.

2+2=20 in my world

I'm not talking about the Big Bang

its nature isnt it

@Sassy Undeniably I am trying

or was a natural occurance

would you care to answer the question?

@chad46 don't red herring me

well ws it or not

answer my question and I will answer yours

quid pro quo, if you will

define nature

observable universe

so big bang wanst nature

the medium in which everything we can tangibly investigates exists

@chad46 quid pro quo

answer my question first

no you just said it