but hundreds of brilliant men have proven these theories of ours

Why in your opinion do you fall back to the Earth whenever you jump

who proved yours?

@SpiderLedgic (Cancer) you're so wrong, science hypothesize and give the best model for something but it's never set in stone. the hypothesis should match what we observe in nature

no

A hypothesis is essentially an educated guess

our senses can fail us

I know that's hard for you to understand

but it can

Mathematical proof >>> whatever you believe in

all we are are biological machines after all

@Snorf me I proved it to me. I have driven for the past 3 years gathering evidence and supporting what I know because once you know something it is a fact and no longer a belief.

we can't trust everything our bodies tell us is true

Why do you never show us your evidence

rational evidence is good to a certain degree, you would still need empirical evidence to support it to become a theory

the human race has been gathering evidence since they've learned to speak

I already know it isn’t through the scientific method so wth did you use

but the empirical evidence matches with the rational evidence

We’ve been observers of the universe for nearly 250,000 years

Y'all use proof in the wrong way

and doesn't go against it

oh god

fran are you with us or them

why

what does this prove

Imagine thinking science proves things beyond a doubt, that's some 19th century philosophy of science bs

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@Snorf science doesn't prove, it gives us the best model that is most likely to happen

it does

there's always room for error

To improve not error

science literally is based off of stuff that we have tested and approved

If the earth is flat why can I see Everest from a plane without being close enough

and we improve on our science if its wrong

Science is a methodology to give us reasonable hypothesis for natural phenomena, it can't prove anything insofar as I can prove I'm not dreaming right now

If you think about it, if the flat earthers were correct then the world would really really suck

Yes it would

Rain would fall sideways

All water would flow downhill

We’d be dead