Message from @Flat Earth PhD

Discord ID: 669266705092182017


2020-01-21 19:19:03 UTC  

cannot follow the scientific method

2020-01-21 19:19:06 UTC  

fullstop

2020-01-21 19:21:35 UTC  

So what about the stars moving? What's actually in motion?

2020-01-21 19:23:02 UTC  

we are only at step 2 in the scientific method.

2020-01-21 19:23:21 UTC  

we cannot truly progress to step 3 without a serious R&D budget

2020-01-21 19:23:31 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/669260811616780319/sci_method.jpg

2020-01-21 19:23:47 UTC  

so we can only form hypotheses at this point

2020-01-21 19:24:45 UTC  

one hypothesis: the stars are fixed in a dome (firmament) which rotates

2020-01-21 19:25:06 UTC  

Have we arranged them according to which would be the mostly easily tested, and what tools we would need to perform the tests?

2020-01-21 19:25:46 UTC  

I don't know if there has been a serious brainstorm on this.

2020-01-21 19:26:36 UTC  

the most feasible idea I've heard to at least confirm "something" up there is a high altitude balloon launch, followed by rocket "probe" launched once balloon is at peak altitude

2020-01-21 19:26:50 UTC  

but even that is a helluva lot of work and $$$

2020-01-21 19:27:17 UTC  

not to mention getting regulatory clearance to do it from govt agencies etc...

2020-01-21 19:28:26 UTC  

would need an array of sensors on said probe. and be able to capture data from them.

2020-01-21 19:29:21 UTC  

one hour of NASAs daily budget of $55,000,000 would be more than enough

2020-01-21 19:35:21 UTC  

Ok, sure. But that's them and we don't need them

2020-01-21 19:36:12 UTC  

What are the ingredients, and where is our recipe?
Do we k ow exactly how much $$$ it would take to do the first step?
Is there a less expensive project we could work on in the mean time?

2020-01-21 19:45:24 UTC  

no I'm not aware of any actual protocol and budget that has been worked on

2020-01-21 19:45:59 UTC  

people are focusing on direct measurements of curvature... e.g. long range photography, laser/mirror tests etc...

2020-01-21 19:46:42 UTC  

the sky is way harder. e.g. how would you test the hypothesis that the moon is not a solid object

2020-01-21 19:46:56 UTC  

not easy

2020-01-21 19:47:02 UTC  

not impossible

2020-01-21 19:47:04 UTC  

but not easy

2020-01-21 19:48:36 UTC  

Yeah, I get that :/

2020-01-21 19:49:42 UTC  

but wouldn't it be an epic experiment 🙂

2020-01-21 19:49:59 UTC  

lots of folks would have to answer lots of questions if the hypothesis is accepted

2020-01-21 19:50:10 UTC  

I just wonder....if everyone spends their time playing pingpong with "the Earth is flat" and "no it's not" and "yes it is" and "*insults your mom*" that we won't actually get anywhere :(

2020-01-21 19:50:25 UTC  

absolutely

2020-01-21 19:50:52 UTC  

that's why I always say that flat earthers are the scientists. we are the ones (mostly) actually going out and doing experiments

2020-01-21 19:50:57 UTC  

Nikon must love us 🙂

2020-01-21 19:51:18 UTC  

helping to sell lots of P900 and P1000 cameras. they should give us an endorsement

2020-01-21 19:51:37 UTC  

XD

2020-01-21 19:51:41 UTC  

Nice

2020-01-21 19:51:52 UTC  

they could name their next model the FE2000

2020-01-21 19:52:18 UTC  

I think, first, I'd like to see what we do accept from the mainstream in order to avoid spending money on unnecessary duplicates

2020-01-21 19:52:38 UTC  

no need. this is very common in science....to replicate experiments

2020-01-21 19:52:48 UTC  

happens every day

2020-01-21 19:53:01 UTC  

Like you were saying the mass spectrometry. Do we need to prove that the machines are accurate, or can we just buy one?

2020-01-21 19:53:17 UTC  

you mean to assay atmospheric samples?

2020-01-21 19:53:32 UTC  

if so..that's a no-brainer.

2020-01-21 19:53:43 UTC  

in fact we could contract the work out. send the samples to a lab. even better since they are independent