you say "refraction" and then explain why

The sun appears flattened when close to the horizon

That’s due to refraction

That is just the foreground causing a mirage

A mirage caused by refraction

Also refraction isn’t just ‘left or right’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lmmzvzz_Xs

here

extrme refraction

Yes, that's what I said earlier.
A mirage refraction would be upside down

Not necessarily

Not all mirages are upside down

I can post pics to defend

Okay

seeing thing upside down? only ever seen that through lense

Well

A medium can act as a lense

Sometimes

jeah like water

or ice

Yes

or glass

but with air ive never seen it

I’m sure it’s possible

If you've seen a mirage you have

a mirage thats upside down?

Yeah

hmm maybe

And there is 2 types

when its really hot and youre looking along an asphalt street i guess

Yep

Sorry @He Cute, I must've made the video on my home computer. I'll see if I can post it tonight when I get home. if not, it wouldn't take me long to recreate.

It's flipping the image

but not sure if i was seeing things upside down.

Yes but refraction doesn’t always flip the image

Not whole image, just the very bottom close to the ground

Then it causes image to go left to right like pencil in cup

It doesn’t have to be left or right

Why does the length of the day increases as you go south during december? On a flat earth you would be moving away from the sun

maybe if you tilt your head

Empirical Experimental Evidence