Message from @DorgonIzFly

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2020-02-08 20:19:07 UTC  

So you don't believe in black holes

2020-02-08 20:19:12 UTC  

Straight up

2020-02-08 20:19:14 UTC  

I'm happy you're grasping around seeking the truth

2020-02-08 20:19:25 UTC  

this is what God wants you to do - but do not lose sight of your frame of reference

2020-02-08 20:19:26 UTC  

no i dont belive that we have ever witnessed anything that is a "black hole"

2020-02-08 20:19:46 UTC  

How do you explain gravitational waves

2020-02-08 20:20:03 UTC  

And what happens to a massive star when it collapses?

2020-02-08 20:20:04 UTC  

you can place assumtions all you want to data but it doesnt mean your observing something thats un-observable

2020-02-08 20:20:34 UTC  

But it isn't in observable

2020-02-08 20:20:47 UTC  

you're focusing on movement through space, that's a red herring

2020-02-08 20:20:53 UTC  

do you know what a black hole is claimed to be?

2020-02-08 20:20:57 UTC  

you need to think of those observations in terms of their implication on moving through /time/

2020-02-08 20:21:04 UTC  

time is the sphere

2020-02-08 20:21:05 UTC  

not space

2020-02-08 20:21:28 UTC  

a region of space having a gravitational field so intense that no matter or radiation can escape

2020-02-08 20:21:42 UTC  

has it ever been demonstrated?

2020-02-08 20:21:43 UTC  

oh so it wouldnt even be observable

2020-02-08 20:21:49 UTC  

LOL

2020-02-08 20:21:51 UTC  

common now

2020-02-08 20:21:54 UTC  

That isn't how it works

2020-02-08 20:22:07 UTC  

ok explain it to me

2020-02-08 20:22:08 UTC  

dude i swear to god globers need to up their bar for evidence lol... it's so weak

2020-02-08 20:22:28 UTC  

evidence

2020-02-08 20:22:29 UTC  

globers aren't dumb

2020-02-08 20:22:32 UTC  

veiw it

2020-02-08 20:22:34 UTC  

There is matter around it that emits a characteristic light because of all the heat and pressure there

2020-02-08 20:22:36 UTC  

they just are trying to apply what they think they see to space

2020-02-08 20:22:38 UTC  

instead of time

2020-02-08 20:22:39 UTC  

movement is both

2020-02-08 20:22:47 UTC  

they're seeing the effects of how time works

2020-02-08 20:22:49 UTC  

not space

2020-02-08 20:22:51 UTC  

but they think it's space

2020-02-08 20:22:53 UTC  

Also, there is hawking radiation

2020-02-08 20:22:55 UTC  

is a photon matter?

2020-02-08 20:23:09 UTC  

Not a fermion so strictly speaking it isn't

2020-02-08 20:23:10 UTC  

Why

2020-02-08 20:23:23 UTC  

does a "blakc hole" suck in photons?

2020-02-08 20:23:29 UTC  

is radiation matter?

2020-02-08 20:23:48 UTC  

assumtions my friend

2020-02-08 20:23:48 UTC  

matter and energy are the same