That's why saying things like "water is always level" doesn't mean much because water is always level on a globe earth too.

Water would be curved actually on a globe not level

water is curved AND level

on a globe

level doesn't necessarily mean flat.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/sea-level

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/vase-of-gerberas-on-crooked-shelf-picture-id200151072-001

is this flat shelf level?

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/level?s=t

if the vase were filled with water, it would be completely level even on that slanted surface

no. it's not level. So what makes it level, then?

"flat or even surface"

Dont try to reinvent the wheel

dictionary definitions don't mean anything in this example, you guys. if that shelf isn't level, then what makes something level?

if you pour WATER into the VASE on that shelf, the WATER will be LEVEL

do you understand?

I'm not talking about water in a vase, strike. that shelf is NOT level, but it IS flat.

do you get it?

sure

what makes something level then?

being flat

sigh

water would be become fully flat on the globe

wait your actually arguing this

but that defies the natural principles of water

no it doesnt think intuitively

you're ignoring the claimed principles of a globe earth, which is that objects are pulled to a center of mass.

you have a force that pulls all the water to the centre of the earth

look, obviously that model makes sense because thats what they taught me and everyone for years and years

yes

but the fact of the matter is that bodies of water do not curve

they find level

I'm saying curving water IS level because level is being perpendicular to the pull of gravity

on the globe earth model

great theory, but does not correlate to reality

are you saying that if you had a ball that attracted water to its centre

and then had a physical barrier that is a sphere around that attractor

that IS the theory. That's what I'm saying