Message from @Logrian

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2020-03-08 00:57:02 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/686014585958170645/observer_BS_2.png

2020-03-08 00:57:03 UTC  

I input T, P and dT/dh only goes up to that value on the simulation, where it is following the earth curve

2020-03-08 00:57:12 UTC  

Which gives us this result

2020-03-08 00:57:16 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/686014645131411496/Screenshot_20200308-005401_Samsung_Internet.jpg

2020-03-08 00:57:17 UTC  

@Logrian doesn't it have to do with the height of the object too

2020-03-08 00:57:26 UTC  

Which should be sufficient

2020-03-08 00:57:40 UTC  

an even if we go to 56 ft observer height we dont get ten miles Cata.

2020-03-08 00:57:52 UTC  

@Logrian not observer height

2020-03-08 00:58:07 UTC  

horizon doesnt have a height

2020-03-08 00:58:25 UTC  

How did you measure the distance to the horizon?

2020-03-08 00:59:06 UTC  

by knowing the distance beyond the towers an the observer hight, according to the glob model the MAX horizon is 1.22miles

2020-03-08 00:59:34 UTC  

Refraction shifts the position of the horizon away from the geometric horizon

2020-03-08 00:59:38 UTC  

@Logrian isn't the calculator based on the globe model

2020-03-08 00:59:51 UTC  

no, its basic geometry tangent

2020-03-08 01:00:01 UTC  

with the glob model R

2020-03-08 01:00:07 UTC  

Of a sphere the size of earth

2020-03-08 01:00:08 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/686015363716088035/Screenshot_20200308-005956_Samsung_Internet.jpg

2020-03-08 01:00:15 UTC  

pit, that silly

2020-03-08 01:00:32 UTC  

Pray why?

2020-03-08 01:01:07 UTC  

If someone disproves you. You should try to disprove them not call them silly

2020-03-08 01:01:49 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/686015789173571599/unknown.png

2020-03-08 01:02:08 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/686015866369998858/refracting.png

2020-03-08 01:02:20 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/686015916211044616/Ice_Lake.png

2020-03-08 01:02:25 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/686015939396894777/Ice_Lake_2.png

2020-03-08 01:02:31 UTC  

@Question For Your Life I'm honestly only aware of Refraction as the concept, not different types

2020-03-08 01:03:13 UTC  

Ice = positive T gradient ergo refraction around the curve.

2020-03-08 01:03:20 UTC  

Also your refraction is assuming an R value which doesnt exist in reality, thats wht its a model, an idea 😉

2020-03-08 01:03:44 UTC  

Seems to fit your obervation pretty well to me 🤔

2020-03-08 01:04:02 UTC  

Nope, you dont get 7 miles of refraction 😉

2020-03-08 01:04:15 UTC  

an also you cannot have refraction, unless youre a flat earther

2020-03-08 01:04:24 UTC  

Only in your mind

2020-03-08 01:04:33 UTC  

facts

2020-03-08 01:04:45 UTC  

your glob model needs a PHYSICAL horizon

2020-03-08 01:04:45 UTC  

Refraction happens perfectly well regardless of the shape of the earth

2020-03-08 01:04:51 UTC  

which is why ships disappear

2020-03-08 01:05:04 UTC  

according to you the glob model has a physical horizon

2020-03-08 01:05:13 UTC  

this is determined by R

2020-03-08 01:05:19 UTC  

this is NOT observed

2020-03-08 01:05:25 UTC  

ergo no R no ball

2020-03-08 01:05:36 UTC  

No. You dot understand the effect refraction has on the apparent position of the physical horizon...

2020-03-08 01:05:47 UTC  

we do, this is the problem