There is always an alternative indeed, but the thing is that this alternative might actually be hard to achieve. And that's the case here. It's pretty easy to kill them, but there is an alternative, no matter how hard it is. I believe that there are ways to both make them cooperate and cut them from the third group. And killing them in the modern world, but in the older one as well, would trigger the reaction of third groups, which could be fatal for the nation and its people.

Ok but you again assuming that the alternative would work and that the imperialistic killing couldn't ensure safety.

You surely can't believe that dominating an opposing group has never brought safety through out all of history.

I can believe that very well, but I can also believe even better the fact that there was always a better alternative, but it was invisible due to the old "trend" also known as Imperialism.

And Imperialistic killing could ensure temporary safety. It would trigger third party reactions, which could be fatal for the Imperialists.

And again, there could be a better alternative.

Well yeah, presently war is more costly than manipulation but that wasn't always the case and that could (however unlikely) change in the future. I would agree that imperialism isn't ideal today but that doesn't mean it is inherently immoral.

And manipulating other nations can cause a negative reaction as well whether that reaction is counter-manipulation or a conventional war, which one is ideal is a situational issue.

That's true. Manipulating other nations doesn't exactly equate to Imperialism though. Anyhow, today's QOTD will happen in a few hours, so we could end the conversation here, since I see that we have reached a conclusion, and since I have to go to class now. It was a very interesting conversation mate. Cya around (if you want to continue it, we could do it in <#587028275918929925>, but you'll have to wait a little bit for my response).

Alright, I don't think we'll get much further and I'm pretty satisfied, nice talk.

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<:dynoSuccess:314691591484866560> ***Scarface#4323 has been warned., Rule 7.***

seems like you don't want that question to be asked interesting*

**Question of the Day.** 🔖
-*Authoritarianism or Libertarianism? Why? What are the advantages and disadvantages of Authoritarianism and Libertarianism?*

@everyone

Libertarianism all day

Government is gay

Hey hey hey

Seriously libertarianism is better

Bars.

Why must you ping everyone

No

Libertarianism has the tools to its own destruction in it.
There is no libertarian argument against people organizing to implement tyranny.
There is also no libertarian argument against say child transgenders.

Why is libertarianism better?

Government gay

Libertarianism >>>>>>>> Authoritarianism.

In short, libertarians are pansies.

Yes^

There moderate libertarianism

authoritarianism is for when you have daddy issues

Mixed

Stop with the ad hom people

militaristic libertarianism

^

lol

Hell, libertarianism is why the west is in the current state.

people should learn how to shoot in school

Sounds disturbing.

In my opinion the degeneracy we see is due to the modern welfare state.

Agreed @Siegfriedolin

ah yes you need a distraction