I think Bethesda itself is problematic because they know if they dont add a certain idea the community probably will.

The issue and saving grace is the passion of the mudding community.

modding*

Bethesda's just plain lazy

Bethesda is a different company now

the Bethesda of Daggerfall and Morrowind is dead

Corrupted by their own success

and nowadays, even casuals recognize this

FO4 sucked

Yeah. Fallout 76 was a burning piece of shit.

Skyrim was ovverated

FO4 was alright in my opinion.

Skyrim is their greatest accomplishment, yet they refuse to move on

Oblivion felt bigger

You could kill the fucking Emperor and still side with the Imperials

I sank 2000 hours into skyrim.

combat was kinda arse but it felt more fun

It was more visceral in a way

Daggerfall was the most complex Computer RPG ever

bar none

6 endings

city sieges

60000 square mile world

multiple factions

D&D character customization

Massive dungeons

regional law enforcement

If y'all want a good RPG with good sword fighting mechanics, then I reccomend Kingdon Come: Deliverance

@Florida Man I have that

I sunk 50 hours into it

Yeah, it's good

I immediately hated Bethesda after playing Fallout New Vegas

Was that Bethesda?

I thought it was obsidian or something.

did you hear how they fucked over the NV devs?

Yes

Obsidian entertainment.

the fact that this buggy game with 18 months of development with most of it being unfinished was better than any Bethesda game since Morrowind infuriated me

Bethesda owns Fallout
and licensed it to Obsidian for NV

Hey, New Vegas was great

the guys that worked on NV were essentially the FO1/2 devs