Message from @Ater Votum

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2020-03-13 22:50:52 UTC  

Because it views all moral propositions thru the lens of "Will it hurt me, and can i just avoid it"

2020-03-13 22:51:25 UTC  

Yall wanna ban porn but not REGULATE guns

2020-03-13 22:51:27 UTC  

Wilddddd

2020-03-13 22:51:58 UTC  

What do you even define as moral or immoral

2020-03-13 22:52:02 UTC  

guns in and of themselves arent immoral

2020-03-13 22:52:16 UTC  

????? So

2020-03-13 22:52:23 UTC  

Guns really don't do anything without a human

2020-03-13 22:52:27 UTC  

Im pointing out how your analogy was bad

2020-03-13 22:52:34 UTC  

and useless

2020-03-13 22:52:39 UTC  

The man with the gun is what counts

2020-03-13 22:53:30 UTC  

Something is moral insofar as it's in accordance to gods will
Something is immoral insofar as it goes against gods will

2020-03-13 22:53:34 UTC  

@Sentient23 Sometimes Laws are put into place that do not reflect what is moral, but exist because human failings in pursuit of what is moral can fail. For me personally, for example, I am in theory for assisted suicide. But because of a conflict in interest, it is in the interest of insurance companies as well as doctors to recommend/push assisted suicide on patients even when they may not need it

2020-03-13 22:53:41 UTC  
2020-03-13 22:53:53 UTC  

Here we go again

2020-03-13 22:53:55 UTC  

I didn't say that laws constitute morality

2020-03-13 22:54:01 UTC  

😭😭😭

2020-03-13 22:54:05 UTC  

I said that laws are tools which are meant to enforce morality

2020-03-13 22:54:15 UTC  

That's their purpose

2020-03-13 22:54:22 UTC  

Which is why I would ban pornography

2020-03-13 22:54:40 UTC  

Because pornography is immoral. Not only does it harm the spiritual aspect of an individual, but it also destroys them mentally

2020-03-13 22:54:40 UTC  

"The entire point of banning something is to legislate that which is immoral lol"

2020-03-13 22:54:44 UTC  

Ni

2020-03-13 22:54:48 UTC  

Yes

2020-03-13 22:54:49 UTC  

you think that it is immoral

2020-03-13 22:54:50 UTC  

I dont

2020-03-13 22:54:57 UTC  

So?

2020-03-13 22:54:57 UTC  

How do you know you're right???

2020-03-13 22:55:06 UTC  

Pornography is immoral. It just satisfies the carnal mind

2020-03-13 22:55:07 UTC  

Who says uts objective

2020-03-13 22:55:11 UTC  

just because both of us have equal conviction doesn't mean both of us are right lol

2020-03-13 22:55:19 UTC  

I know

2020-03-13 22:55:23 UTC  

Which is why it should be banned

2020-03-13 22:55:27 UTC  

I'm saying why are you treating morality as if its objective

2020-03-13 22:55:28 UTC  

@valencia/Vaida That and it can cause addiction

2020-03-13 22:55:38 UTC  

Because i'm convinced its objective?

2020-03-13 22:55:46 UTC  

How

2020-03-13 22:56:01 UTC  

Because I'm a Theist who believes in a moral god

2020-03-13 22:56:09 UTC  

How is it objective when everyone constantly disagrees about moral issues

2020-03-13 22:56:17 UTC  

"just because both of us have equal conviction doesn't mean both of us are right lol"

2020-03-13 22:56:24 UTC  

Objective doesn't mean "all humans agree on it"

2020-03-13 22:56:29 UTC  

I know