Message from @Sentient23

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2020-03-13 23:01:03 UTC  

thats part of the argument

2020-03-13 23:01:04 UTC  

let me explain

2020-03-13 23:01:09 UTC  

and ur explanation is garbage lol

2020-03-13 23:01:26 UTC  

How

2020-03-13 23:01:53 UTC  

"You cant derive that there is no objective truth from the mere fact that there is disagreement"

2020-03-13 23:02:03 UTC  

But also funny coincidence how everyhing that I believe in is objective

2020-03-13 23:02:40 UTC  

The point of the example is if your criteria for what's an objective fact, is that it must be believed by all humans, since if the perspectives on the issue wary, it means its subjective, then the earth being round is not a fact, since flat earthers do exist.

So
1. If the criteria by which you decide what's objective is that the perspectives on the issue MUST NOT WARY, then if the perspectives on something wary, it means its not objective
2. The perspectives on the earth being round do wary
3. Therefore, if we were to adopt this criteria, the logical consequence (absurdity) WOULD BE saying that the earth being round is subjective

2020-03-13 23:03:10 UTC  

That's what I said

2020-03-13 23:03:17 UTC  

And I dont disagree with that

2020-03-13 23:03:25 UTC  

I'm explaining why the example is perfect

2020-03-13 23:03:25 UTC  

I'm just saying that it's not a good example

2020-03-13 23:03:34 UTC  

Yes well your explanation as to why its not a good example is wrong lol

2020-03-13 23:03:36 UTC  

As just demonstrated

2020-03-13 23:03:45 UTC  

its a perfect example

2020-03-13 23:04:00 UTC  

It doesnt defend your position on morality at all

2020-03-13 23:04:05 UTC  

Because it's not about morality

2020-03-13 23:04:10 UTC  

It's not even debatable

2020-03-13 23:04:28 UTC  

It does because it demonstrates that if the criteria by which you judge whats objective, is whether perspectives warying is absent, then the earth being round is not a fact

2020-03-13 23:04:39 UTC  

Yes its not about morality but the example still applies

2020-03-13 23:05:49 UTC  

I'm saying that it's not a criteria

2020-03-13 23:06:04 UTC  

criterion
/krʌɪˈtɪərɪən/
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noun
plural noun: criteria
a principle or standard by which something may be judged or decided

2020-03-13 23:06:21 UTC  

by this definition it is, since ur judging whether its objective according to whether or not perspectives wary

2020-03-13 23:09:59 UTC  

I said I agree with you

2020-03-13 23:10:03 UTC  

I dont know what you're getting at

2020-03-13 23:11:15 UTC  

You said the flat earth example is not a good example

2020-03-13 23:11:15 UTC  

chill

2020-03-13 23:11:21 UTC  

I'm explaining how it is

2020-03-13 23:11:22 UTC  

I'm calm

2020-03-13 23:11:29 UTC  

aiightt

2020-03-13 23:28:33 UTC  

@Sentient23 I agree. I just think everyone pursues the good, and for those who create pornography as a necessary evil, I wonder what system could be in place to help them leave that sinful life without infringing on their ability to sustain themselves

2020-03-14 00:08:16 UTC  

Here's an efficient system to get rid of them: Round them all up against the wall

2020-03-14 00:12:08 UTC  

Doesn't sound very Christian IMO but I like it

2020-03-14 01:53:00 UTC  

^

2020-03-14 01:53:28 UTC  

which is why i say that we should round them all up and put them in work camps or as we will refer to them unregulated factories @Sentient23

2020-03-14 01:54:11 UTC  

Pretty radical

2020-03-14 01:54:27 UTC  

no

2020-03-14 01:54:32 UTC  

its the best solution

2020-03-14 01:54:35 UTC  

pleases everyone

2020-03-14 01:54:52 UTC  

But ofc not the porno creators

2020-03-14 01:54:54 UTC  

>libertarian

2020-03-14 01:55:00 UTC  

Who could've guessed