Message from @Doktor Goon

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2020-01-23 00:10:13 UTC  

Since this argument establishes that whenever SOMETHING changes, god is supplying the most fundamental material thing with the necessary actuality to actualize everything else

2020-01-23 00:10:48 UTC  

This is how god is defined in classical theology

2020-01-23 00:11:30 UTC  

I follow

2020-01-23 00:14:02 UTC  

cringe

2020-01-23 00:14:23 UTC  

ok so that's basically how this leads to god lol

2020-01-23 00:17:47 UTC  

Okay so where does it prove God

2020-01-23 00:18:20 UTC  

Pure Act encompasses something which is eternal, unchangable, omnipotent and omnipresent, that "something" is therefore defined as "god"

2020-01-23 00:21:41 UTC  

Pure act is God yes?

2020-01-23 00:21:50 UTC  

Where is pure act?

2020-01-23 00:22:41 UTC  

What I kind of wanted to drive home more is people want tangible things they can immediately look at and go "that exists"

2020-01-23 00:23:03 UTC  

To people who can't see God or anything like that he may as well not exist

2020-01-23 00:23:38 UTC  

Yes material things can be verified by mere observence

2020-01-23 00:23:42 UTC  

immaterial things cannot be verified by mere observence

2020-01-23 00:24:07 UTC  

Its a very hard concept to grasp on at the begining due to our material limitations, but over time, you can *kind of* conceptualize it

2020-01-23 00:25:31 UTC  

But I guess the million dollar question really is

2020-01-23 00:25:36 UTC  

Does it matter?

2020-01-23 00:28:25 UTC  

Especially to the average person

2020-01-23 00:29:18 UTC  

Of course it matters lol

2020-01-23 00:29:34 UTC  

If christianity or islam is true i dont wanna be tortured after i die just because i was lazy, idk about you

2020-01-23 00:31:42 UTC  

Well I'd rather be tortured for making my own decisions

2020-01-23 00:31:58 UTC  

All my closest friends are pagans and atheists anyway

2020-01-23 00:32:57 UTC  

So at least if they are right I'll be with them

2020-01-23 00:35:54 UTC  

Matthew 5:30
And if your hand—even your stronger hand—causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell

2020-01-23 00:35:55 UTC  

2020-01-23 00:36:05 UTC  

>Christian

2020-01-23 00:36:23 UTC  

Da.

2020-01-23 00:36:33 UTC  

Most of them are in here

2020-01-23 00:36:37 UTC  

Crimea Ukrayinski, Ruski.

2020-01-23 00:37:04 UTC  

🖕🏻

2020-01-23 00:37:50 UTC  

you arent even russian

2020-01-23 00:37:53 UTC  

anyways

2020-01-23 00:38:00 UTC  

Christianity is cringe and you are as well

2020-01-23 00:38:07 UTC  

I can't abide by that logic plus I still am not Christian

2020-01-23 00:38:23 UTC  

And I see no reason to convert as I'm already a pagan

2020-01-23 00:38:29 UTC  

same

2020-01-23 00:38:49 UTC  

Based

2020-01-23 00:39:12 UTC  

I thought it was kind of implied you can't be christian and fascist or natsoc

2020-01-23 00:39:20 UTC  

but I guess not

2020-01-23 00:39:52 UTC  

cringe

2020-01-23 00:40:29 UTC  

People try to reconcile the two

2020-01-23 00:40:31 UTC  

you'll grow out of it eventually