So you think they went from being the beacon of culture to a reflection of the culture they occupy? Essentially falling from a state of becoming into being.

i never said beacon of culture but they werent bad

Well, isn't the best way to change that to join the lodge, rise in the ranks and be the change we want to see? Isn't that what it means to be solar: being a generative force that establishes?

That and knowing the right people helps too

@ComradeChaos good luck with that, im sure many have tried

I know that in my leisurely pursuit of pissing off masons I've actually had some who have tried to recruit me, perhaps it's not a fruitless effort

my grandfather was one

not in any significant lodge tho

either way trying to climb up the masonic hierarchy will either turn you into one of them or get you killed

Death isn't the end so I fear it not

true but if you die all your efforts would be in vain

@Tekka I think I may have been quick to judge you, but can you really blame me when I'm engaged with like this?

yeah you seem pretty knowledgeable

also why is he saying youre mixed race?

Because I am part mediterranean and part Northern European

So lol, argument invalid.

thats not mixed race lol

southern europeans are still white for the most part

You'd be surprised how many people don't consider Italians white, nevermind Greeks or Sicilians like Evola

yes im aware

and its for good reason too

they do have alot of mixture with arabs

but still

actual greeks and actual sicillians are white

like my greek side is light brown hair and blue eyes

Sicilians and Jews are nearly genetically identical

not exactly, though they do share alot of dna with them

because jews had alot of trade colonies in sicily

I've just learned to help the people who show me they care about me and to stop helping the people who don't. We shouldn't feel like we're forced to stand in the shadow of people who think "white identity" is about how pale your skin is.

I've seen on forums like voat where Anglos and other northern Europeans living in America shit talk the Irish and Italians.

those who think that will soon learn the hard way

like literally greeks are the only ones doing anything about immigration at this moment

bruhhhhhhhhhhh

@ComradeChaos Sorry to interrupt, but in which channel did ofvo keep saying "mixed race = argument invalid"?

This one lol

And you're mixed race?

I consider Mediterraneans and Northern Europeans to be similar in culture but of different races

Okay, he will be punished. Thank you, and keep debating.

**@Sentient23** has been detained.

lmao

FYI, <#587028275918929925>, <#587029563863990282> and <#588205956039442452> sometimes, do not allow unserious or childish behavior, and that's why he was punished. Anyhow, keep debating.