Message from @OrthoGoat

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2020-03-14 22:39:24 UTC  

Sometimes we need to sacrifice ourselves for the sake of others

2020-03-14 22:39:24 UTC  

physically is

2020-03-14 22:39:35 UTC  

firstly you added because of god's infinite mercy which isnt in the quote

2020-03-14 22:39:37 UTC  

The acceptance of earthly suffering to establish a better future

2020-03-14 22:39:41 UTC  

Im explaining

2020-03-14 22:39:43 UTC  

secondly the quote implies action

2020-03-14 22:39:46 UTC  

''He has''

2020-03-14 22:39:50 UTC  

Yes

2020-03-14 22:39:52 UTC  

To plant trees we'll never sit in the shade of

2020-03-14 22:39:53 UTC  

He has forgiven us

2020-03-14 22:39:57 UTC  

No.

2020-03-14 22:40:04 UTC  

He has not punished us enoough

2020-03-14 22:40:08 UTC  

or for all we deserve

2020-03-14 22:40:21 UTC  

I dont see the word enough in there

2020-03-14 22:40:27 UTC  

That's such a masochistic mindset

2020-03-14 22:40:54 UTC  

for all we deserve is a synonym for, not everything that shouldve but still some

2020-03-14 22:40:55 UTC  

Let me try to explain how i reached the interpretation @OrthoGoat give me one moment

2020-03-14 22:41:03 UTC  

In a world built on punishment, nowhere does good exist because all there will be is sin and retribution

2020-03-14 22:42:38 UTC  

'He has not punished us as we deserve'

He = God

has not punished us = did not punish us as much

as we deserve = as we deserve to be punishedd

2020-03-14 22:42:42 UTC  
2020-03-14 22:42:48 UTC  

Yes.

2020-03-14 22:43:05 UTC  

Thats the exact same thing i said

2020-03-14 22:43:09 UTC  

We have the same interpretation then?

2020-03-14 22:43:19 UTC  

not from what you were saying earlier

2020-03-14 22:43:37 UTC  

I don't believe an inifitley merciful God would punish you if you die clean

2020-03-14 22:43:46 UTC  

If you dont die clean, it is understanadble

2020-03-14 22:43:53 UTC  

what does dying clean mean?

2020-03-14 22:44:03 UTC  

Dying without sin

2020-03-14 22:44:07 UTC  

with 0 sin

2020-03-14 22:44:19 UTC  

When you pray for forgiveness, past sins are null

2020-03-14 22:44:26 UTC  

thats a bit extreme

2020-03-14 22:44:33 UTC  

It is effectivley a clean slate

2020-03-14 22:44:34 UTC  

a bit wrong aswell

2020-03-14 22:44:51 UTC  

so then everyone can be Jesus Christ at the end of their life if they pray

2020-03-14 22:45:04 UTC  

wdym?

2020-03-14 22:45:06 UTC  

just be a sodomite and pray its fine

2020-03-14 22:45:21 UTC  

I mentioned earlier, assuming youve been a lifelong christian

2020-03-14 22:45:30 UTC  

thats a very low brain take and i want you to back it up

2020-03-14 22:45:44 UTC  

Back up what

2020-03-14 22:46:23 UTC  

the claim that through prayer your past sins become null

2020-03-14 22:46:27 UTC  

forgiven is one