Message from @OrthoGoat

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2020-02-11 18:38:10 UTC  

Wanna be intellectual - "they chose to take the special deal" yes and no. Marketing is fucking with human psychology, it is involuntarily voluntary.

2020-02-11 18:38:50 UTC  

The local company could not afford to run unprofitability long enough to retain it's customers against the conglomerate's "deals"

2020-02-11 18:39:39 UTC  

The local chose to offer lower prices and better deals at the cost of lower profit, literally altruistic I've met several of their staff.

2020-02-11 18:41:05 UTC  

And for a larger greedy company to force them out because they weren't happy with their market share in a relatively small part of the city is absolutely garbage

2020-02-11 18:42:32 UTC  

Now we both have worse deals and higher prices

2020-02-11 18:43:16 UTC  

Home Internet is a similar story, luckily my family negotiated with Xfinity to get 200mbps at a significantly reduced price because we are long term customers

2020-02-11 18:44:38 UTC  

35usd monthly as opposed to their stupid 70usd a month

2020-02-11 18:45:10 UTC  

Very few people go out of their way to negotiate or communicate directly with their providers for better deals

2020-02-11 18:45:26 UTC  

"but that's their fault muh uh"

2020-02-11 18:45:39 UTC  

It has to be taught, they can plead ignorance

2020-02-11 18:47:44 UTC  

All public utilities must be nationalized

2020-02-11 18:48:01 UTC  

Water, electricity, gas, internet, roads, etc

2020-02-11 18:48:14 UTC  

Increase top tax bracket tax to 90%

2020-02-11 18:48:39 UTC  

Allow IRS more power to hunt rich people who try to launder or loophole

2020-02-11 18:49:12 UTC  

Make loopholes illegal as a catch all, knowingly using a legal loophole must be illegal.

2020-02-11 18:49:32 UTC  

"ur JusT jeAloUs, uR pOoR"

2020-02-11 18:49:55 UTC  

My family is Upper Middle Class, very comfortable life with many luxuries. By no measure are we poor.

2020-02-11 19:31:07 UTC  

i saw some cringe takes about my beliefs

2020-02-11 19:31:35 UTC  

im simply saying any platform that people use is already monopolized by the bigger companies

2020-02-11 19:31:49 UTC  

its simply pointless to buy ad space unless you spend thousands or even millions

2020-02-11 19:32:07 UTC  

so my point still stands

2020-02-11 19:32:12 UTC  

no competitor will pop up

2020-02-11 19:32:20 UTC  

as it would be too expensive to get off the ground

2020-02-11 19:32:27 UTC  

and youd be competing with an established brand

2020-02-11 20:31:18 UTC  

@Maksim Your beliefs cannot be implemented in today's world. Should the government start nationalizing businesses just that randomly, corporations will leave the country, and the state's revenues will deminish.

2020-02-11 20:31:51 UTC  

Also top tax should be 50%.

2020-02-11 20:43:03 UTC  
2020-02-11 20:43:37 UTC  

@Koninos Wether or not it can be implemented in the current system is irrelevant to the topic. Furthermore no they wouldn't, the state can force them to stay.

2020-02-11 20:52:20 UTC  

@Maksim Talking to another person is also fucking with human psychology and can be involuntary for the other party. Setting your business up in so far that you don't offer value other than being a price leader is ill advised practice. Not having enough profits will mean that they will not be able to expand which will in turn mean they will not be able to scale. A smart businessman will have to take into account what is more altruistic, to give his fortune away for the poor in one day and become one as them or give them little yet steadily over years so that he can uphold himself too and in turn fall back on something when the bad time comes. One must first take care of his own house before he can go fixing others. As on the issue that the providers offer an increased price it is in direct correlation with the customer for whom the utility is in the scope of the budget offered. If he is ready to pay as much as 70usd per month then he should do so. In case he is not he can bargain with the service provider or say no to the good and instead use alternative means as going to public internet providers. It is like a person who will buy a versace bag for thousands of dollars while another can order a close copy of it for under ten dollars from china directly from a manufacturer. That increased price does give him the convenience of not having to do any additional work and gives him more leisure as well as in case of versace a higher status. It is common for people of middle class to rise up against the state of things. And paraphrasing Orwell they also to be detested the most for these pseudo socialist know little of the real plight that people are suffering day to day and instead focus on what makes them look good in their fight against the fictious enemy that stands above them and tries to repress them.

2020-02-11 21:03:23 UTC  

@Maksim And then get sanctioned by UN and get its economy destroyed. We're not in the early 20th century anymore.

2020-02-11 21:03:44 UTC  

Fuck the UN lmao

2020-02-11 21:03:49 UTC  

Actual garbage

2020-02-11 21:04:01 UTC  

Escalate the violence

2020-02-11 21:04:10 UTC  

Garbage or not, it exists.

2020-02-11 21:04:29 UTC  

Also calling for escalated violence is stupid.

2020-02-11 21:04:40 UTC  

You like it until it comes upon you.

2020-02-11 21:04:57 UTC  

I'd rather die in a fight than as a slave

2020-02-11 21:05:09 UTC  

No-one is a slave.

2020-02-11 21:05:43 UTC  

There are more slaves around the world now than ever before.

2020-02-11 21:05:55 UTC  

Define slaves then.

2020-02-11 21:06:15 UTC  

To be left with undesirable alternatives, and be forced to choose