Message from @valencia/Vaida

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2020-03-09 18:40:53 UTC  

Jorden was control their territory

2020-03-09 18:41:03 UTC  

and no one had problem with that

2020-03-09 18:41:24 UTC  

Palestine was never independent, yet was a provision of the British Empire.

2020-03-09 18:41:41 UTC  

The Palestinians did want their independence, but who could challenge the British?

2020-03-09 18:41:48 UTC  

Neither the Palestinians nor the Jews.

2020-03-09 18:42:01 UTC  

and before it was Turkey empire who was control right?

2020-03-09 18:43:06 UTC  

I have a question @Koninos how do you think Palestines came to Israel?

2020-03-09 18:47:33 UTC  

Through the Arabian expansions?

2020-03-09 18:47:45 UTC  

But I don't really care because it's not really relevant?

2020-03-09 18:48:25 UTC  

first of all yes they came from the Muslim empire

2020-03-09 18:48:45 UTC  

and how Jews did came to Israel?

2020-03-09 18:49:37 UTC  

They were there since Antiquity.

2020-03-09 18:52:01 UTC  

ok

2020-03-09 18:53:38 UTC  

and then the Babylon and when they came Jews run away to Europe to Africa and to Asia they were separated

2020-03-09 18:53:52 UTC  

It honestly doesn't matter who was there first.

2020-03-09 18:54:02 UTC  

What matters is who was there last, officially.

2020-03-09 18:54:59 UTC  

yea you are right but does because Palestines were last one who lived there

2020-03-09 18:55:13 UTC  

they deserve a state?

2020-03-09 18:55:37 UTC  

Of course and they deserve a state. Every people deserve a state.

2020-03-09 18:55:47 UTC  

And even if they didn't, why would the Jews deserve it?

2020-03-09 18:56:30 UTC  

^

2020-03-09 18:56:46 UTC  

what do you mean if they weren't deserve would Jews deserve? listen Palestines deserve because they were living there

2020-03-09 18:58:02 UTC  

The Jews deserved a state as well, but not in Palestine

2020-03-09 18:58:43 UTC  

and Jews deserve also because first of all after what happen in war world 2 all the horror that Jews had Jews to came back to their house and they a state that would protect Jews and Palestines deserve to have state that would protect them

2020-03-09 18:58:54 UTC  

and their house is Israel

2020-03-09 18:59:13 UTC  

Jews deserve to live in Israel

2020-03-09 18:59:18 UTC  

as well

2020-03-09 19:00:12 UTC  

The horror they went through during the second world war doesn't give them the right to steal Palestinian land.

2020-03-09 19:00:18 UTC  

Because it wasn't their home anymore.

2020-03-09 19:00:27 UTC  

It once was, but not anymore.

2020-03-09 19:01:26 UTC  

but listen it doesn't matter where Jews would have state everyone would still say we steal a land

2020-03-09 19:03:02 UTC  

Yes.

2020-03-09 19:03:09 UTC  

Unfair isn't it?

2020-03-09 19:03:51 UTC  

so how we can have state without some people saying that we are stealing

2020-03-09 19:03:58 UTC  

?

2020-03-09 19:04:01 UTC  

They don't have a state.

2020-03-09 19:04:02 UTC  

Simple.

2020-03-09 19:04:14 UTC  

Britain could just invite them to mainland England, without forming a state, and let them live there.

2020-03-09 19:04:18 UTC  

It's very very simple.

2020-03-09 19:04:25 UTC  

They didn't need a state, although they deserved one.

2020-03-09 19:04:30 UTC  

but you said Jews deserve a state