Message from @Iron
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They are not our, or my, people.
The fact that no mass immigration and poor integration techniques have failed to integrate migrants in the country, doesn't make integration a myth. You'd very much like to believe that, so that your points become valid, but really, they're not. Yes, they're not our people. But they're our citizens. And as long as they are citizens of the nation, we either give them protection, or we are evil.
Then be evil.
I refuse to.
@Koninos Just checking, are you in the camp of denying the problems caused by immigrants, or camp of insisting that this is mostly our fault because of retarded procedures?
My moral code prevents me from being so.
No you just transfer the hurt to your own people.
@AsdfgQwert Mostly in the second one, but not entirely. I wouldn't put myself in either of these camps, really.
The unsafe streets, depressed wages, worse schools.
You dont actually care, you just want to be seen to care.
How are the unsafe streets, depressed wages, worse schools not our creation?
Patholigical empathy.
So you believe, that once you get a migrant in your nation, he will instantly start worsening the schools, decreasing the wages, and doing all these evil things to your own people?
That is the state's incompetence. But that incompetence is blamed on migrants because, very often, their color is brown. And that is not aesthetically pleasing to you, is it?
Hey yaall
that is misrepresenration and you know it.
Prove it.
When you bring in tens of thousanda and they condense in one local, ethnic enclave it happens.
Yes.
Does that mean that the streets become unsafe?
And that the schools worsen?
Yes it does, overwhelmingly.
And that the wages decrease?
How so?
cheap labor
Enclaves hurt your national integrity, not the streets.
not the wages, not the schools.
More students in schools = higher teacher: student ratio
These are faults of the state.
So?
Should we start expelling more 2nd generation migrant students and teachers too, to help our native people get more money?
How gentle of you.
Or should we stop our population from increasing?
The ratio will increase with that too.
Yes.
https://www.rbb24.de/panorama/beitrag/2020/03/kriminalstatistik-2019-berlin-polizei-straftaten.html 72% increase in rape in Berlin since 2015. 90% state fault?
No, we should increase taxes, and strengthen the education system
@AsdfgQwert If the police can't do its job, whose fault is it?
Cant strengthen it with a growing parasite class
If the state can't integrate the migrants, whose fault is it?