Message from @Iron

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2020-03-24 16:49:54 UTC  

They are not our, or my, people.

2020-03-24 16:51:00 UTC  

The fact that no mass immigration and poor integration techniques have failed to integrate migrants in the country, doesn't make integration a myth. You'd very much like to believe that, so that your points become valid, but really, they're not. Yes, they're not our people. But they're our citizens. And as long as they are citizens of the nation, we either give them protection, or we are evil.

2020-03-24 16:51:16 UTC  

Then be evil.

2020-03-24 16:51:24 UTC  

I refuse to.

2020-03-24 16:51:26 UTC  

@Koninos Just checking, are you in the camp of denying the problems caused by immigrants, or camp of insisting that this is mostly our fault because of retarded procedures?

2020-03-24 16:51:29 UTC  

My moral code prevents me from being so.

2020-03-24 16:51:42 UTC  

No you just transfer the hurt to your own people.

2020-03-24 16:52:02 UTC  

@AsdfgQwert Mostly in the second one, but not entirely. I wouldn't put myself in either of these camps, really.

2020-03-24 16:52:04 UTC  

The unsafe streets, depressed wages, worse schools.

2020-03-24 16:52:20 UTC  

You dont actually care, you just want to be seen to care.

2020-03-24 16:52:26 UTC  

How are the unsafe streets, depressed wages, worse schools not our creation?

2020-03-24 16:52:28 UTC  

Patholigical empathy.

2020-03-24 16:52:53 UTC  

So you believe, that once you get a migrant in your nation, he will instantly start worsening the schools, decreasing the wages, and doing all these evil things to your own people?

2020-03-24 16:53:17 UTC  

That is the state's incompetence. But that incompetence is blamed on migrants because, very often, their color is brown. And that is not aesthetically pleasing to you, is it?

2020-03-24 16:53:28 UTC  

Hey yaall

2020-03-24 16:53:42 UTC  

that is misrepresenration and you know it.

2020-03-24 16:53:50 UTC  

Prove it.

2020-03-24 16:54:09 UTC  

When you bring in tens of thousanda and they condense in one local, ethnic enclave it happens.

2020-03-24 16:54:16 UTC  

Yes.

2020-03-24 16:54:32 UTC  

Does that mean that the streets become unsafe?

2020-03-24 16:54:33 UTC  

I dont care if they are brown.

2020-03-24 16:54:36 UTC  

And that the schools worsen?

2020-03-24 16:54:40 UTC  

Yes it does, overwhelmingly.

2020-03-24 16:54:40 UTC  

And that the wages decrease?

2020-03-24 16:54:43 UTC  

How so?

2020-03-24 16:54:48 UTC  

cheap labor

2020-03-24 16:54:53 UTC  

Enclaves hurt your national integrity, not the streets.

2020-03-24 16:54:57 UTC  

not the wages, not the schools.

2020-03-24 16:55:01 UTC  

More students in schools = higher teacher: student ratio

2020-03-24 16:55:01 UTC  

These are faults of the state.

2020-03-24 16:55:23 UTC  

So?

2020-03-24 16:56:14 UTC  

Should we start expelling more 2nd generation migrant students and teachers too, to help our native people get more money?

2020-03-24 16:56:18 UTC  

How gentle of you.

2020-03-24 16:56:36 UTC  

Or should we stop our population from increasing?

2020-03-24 16:56:43 UTC  

The ratio will increase with that too.

2020-03-24 16:56:53 UTC  

Yes.

2020-03-24 16:56:57 UTC  
2020-03-24 16:57:01 UTC  

No, we should increase taxes, and strengthen the education system

2020-03-24 16:57:12 UTC  

@AsdfgQwert If the police can't do its job, whose fault is it?

2020-03-24 16:57:13 UTC  

Cant strengthen it with a growing parasite class

2020-03-24 16:57:25 UTC  

If the state can't integrate the migrants, whose fault is it?